巴菲特太快扣扳機? 選股栽了 - 股票

By Sierra Rose
at 2009-02-12T19:31
at 2009-02-12T19:31
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※ 引述《taipeiguy ()》之銘言:
: 遠低於... 到底是低到什麼程度呢??
: 10%?? 20% ??
: 看這個樣子, 虧損期間應該有半年
: 無論如何, 這都代表投資的重大失誤
1973年他趁崩跌大掃華盛頓郵報
1987年他趁崩跌大掃可口可樂
印象中都套了頗久 後來怎麼樣大家都很清楚
我不覺得上面的出手算是"失誤"
: 如果太早出手,然後靠時間拗回來
: 這不叫股神,這是散戶
: 只不過是錢很多的散戶而已
問題就是他錢太多 不趁崩盤的時候買
他要怎麼用他想要的便宜價格買到足夠的部位?
還有 他要的是公司的現金流量 而非資本利得
不要本末倒置
: 這也證明我所說的,
: 巴菲特其實主要不是靠低買高賣致富,
: 而是藉由操縱被投資公司的股利政策
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
不同意 巴菲特基本上給旗下各企業經理人的空間很大
只有當公司賺得的現金 無法藉由內部再投資取得適當報酬率時
巴菲特才會要求公司將那些多餘的現金交由波克夏重新分配
: 或探知業務訊息致富
什麼叫"業務訊息"?
那些非公開上市公司 主動要求巴菲特併購算嗎?
==
補充一下 巴菲特近幾年給股東的信都會附上兩組數據
第一組是每股平均投資金額及其複合成長率
1965 $4
1979 $577 1965-1979 42.8% (看到老巴在本小時的績效了沒?)
1993 $13,961 1979-1993 25.6%
2007 $90,343 1993-2007 14.3%
第二組是每股平均稅前盈餘及其複合成長率
(扣除第一組的有價證券投資及商譽攤銷後)
1965 $4
1979 $18 1965-1979 11.1%
1993 $212 1979-1993 19.1%
2007 $4,093 1993-2007 23.5%
從上可以很明顯發現近年波克夏的成長動能來自於企業併購
理由很簡單 因為波克夏"太大了"
大到很少有機會以便宜的價錢 在次級市場上買到符合要求的企業
兩年前波克夏手上的現金才創歷史新高 好不容易出現了個金融海嘯
老巴龜了n年 才等到這種能在次級市場大占市場先生便宜的機會
不趁這時買要趁啥時買?
再強調一次 他關心的是現金流量
只要投資金額能產生出他想要的ROA就好 之後股價怎麼走他是不會鳥地
(注意 是ROA 不是資本利得!!
有興趣者請看波克夏年報開頭那份和s&p500的比較表
波克夏的部份一直都是用淨值當作標準 而非市值)
--
霧犁開夢境/眾多船隻剔亮了燈/
我剛剛自你的睡眠上岸/像露水,滑過疲憊的眉睫
--
: 遠低於... 到底是低到什麼程度呢??
: 10%?? 20% ??
: 看這個樣子, 虧損期間應該有半年
: 無論如何, 這都代表投資的重大失誤
1973年他趁崩跌大掃華盛頓郵報
1987年他趁崩跌大掃可口可樂
印象中都套了頗久 後來怎麼樣大家都很清楚
我不覺得上面的出手算是"失誤"
: 如果太早出手,然後靠時間拗回來
: 這不叫股神,這是散戶
: 只不過是錢很多的散戶而已
問題就是他錢太多 不趁崩盤的時候買
他要怎麼用他想要的便宜價格買到足夠的部位?
還有 他要的是公司的現金流量 而非資本利得
不要本末倒置
: 這也證明我所說的,
: 巴菲特其實主要不是靠低買高賣致富,
: 而是藉由操縱被投資公司的股利政策
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
不同意 巴菲特基本上給旗下各企業經理人的空間很大
只有當公司賺得的現金 無法藉由內部再投資取得適當報酬率時
巴菲特才會要求公司將那些多餘的現金交由波克夏重新分配
: 或探知業務訊息致富
什麼叫"業務訊息"?
那些非公開上市公司 主動要求巴菲特併購算嗎?
==
補充一下 巴菲特近幾年給股東的信都會附上兩組數據
第一組是每股平均投資金額及其複合成長率
1965 $4
1979 $577 1965-1979 42.8% (看到老巴在本小時的績效了沒?)
1993 $13,961 1979-1993 25.6%
2007 $90,343 1993-2007 14.3%
第二組是每股平均稅前盈餘及其複合成長率
(扣除第一組的有價證券投資及商譽攤銷後)
1965 $4
1979 $18 1965-1979 11.1%
1993 $212 1979-1993 19.1%
2007 $4,093 1993-2007 23.5%
從上可以很明顯發現近年波克夏的成長動能來自於企業併購
理由很簡單 因為波克夏"太大了"
大到很少有機會以便宜的價錢 在次級市場上買到符合要求的企業
兩年前波克夏手上的現金才創歷史新高 好不容易出現了個金融海嘯
老巴龜了n年 才等到這種能在次級市場大占市場先生便宜的機會
不趁這時買要趁啥時買?
再強調一次 他關心的是現金流量
只要投資金額能產生出他想要的ROA就好 之後股價怎麼走他是不會鳥地
(注意 是ROA 不是資本利得!!
有興趣者請看波克夏年報開頭那份和s&p500的比較表
波克夏的部份一直都是用淨值當作標準 而非市值)
--
霧犁開夢境/眾多船隻剔亮了燈/
我剛剛自你的睡眠上岸/像露水,滑過疲憊的眉睫
--
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