利用Multicharts做多市場分散01 - 財經

Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2013-07-03T19:11

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: 推 sesee:估計在多長的交易時間內破某個特定的DD%的機率~ 個人認為是 07/03 16:46
: → sesee:沒什麼意義的~ 因為會造成MDD創高的行情何時來根本無法預測 07/03 16:51
: → sesee:如果是權益數mdd%一直破當然是有很大的關係 趕快縮部位做唄 07/03 17:06
: → sesee:單一策略一直破mdd 如果是賠它該賠的錢 繼續用它~why not? 07/03 17:07
Ed seykota的說法也差不多 參考一下
http://www.seykota.com/tribe/risk/

Measuring Portfolio Volatility
Sharpe, VaR, Lake Ratio and Stress Testing

From the standpoint of the diversified portfolio, the individual components
merge and become part of the overall performance. Portfolio managers rely on
measurement systems to determine the performance of the aggregate fund, such
as the Sharpe Ratio, VaR, Lake Ratio and Stress Testing.

William Sharpe, in 1966, creates his "reward-to-variability ratio." Over time
it comes to be known as the "Sharpe Ratio." The Sharpe Ratio, S, provides a
way to compare instruments with different performances and different
volatilities, by adjusting the performances for volatilities.

S = mean(d)/standard_deviation(d) ... the Sharpe Ratio, where

d = Rf - Rb ... the differential return, and where
Rf - return from the fund
Rb - return from a benchmark

Various variations of the Sharpe Ratio appear over time. One variation leaves
out the benchmark term, or sets it to zero. Another, basically the square of
the Sharpe Ratio, includes the variance of the returns, rather than the
standard deviation. One of the considerations about using the Sharpe ratio is
that it does not distinguish between up-side and down-side volatility, so
high-leverage / high-performance systems that seek high upside-volatility do
not appear favorably.

VaR, or Value-at-Risk is another currently popular way to determine portfolio
risk. Typically, it measures the highest percentage draw down, that is
expected to occur over a given time period, with 95% chance. The drawbacks to
relying on VaR are that (1) historical computations can produce only rough
approximations of forward volatility and (2) there is still a 5% chance that
the percentage draw down will still exceed the expectation. Since the most
severe draw down problems (loss of confidence by investors and managers)
occur during these "outlier" events, VaR does not really address or even
predict the very scenarios it purports to remedy.

A rule-of-thumb way to view high volatility accounts, by this author, is the
Lake Ratio. If we display performance as a graph over time, with peaks and
valleys, we can visualize rain falling on a mountain range, filling in all
the valleys. This produces a series of lakes between peaks. In case the
portfolio is not at an all-time high, we also erect a dam back up to the all
time high, at the far right to collect all the water from the previous high
point in a final, artificial lake. The total volume of water represents the
integral product of drawdown magnitude and drawdown duration.

If we divide the total volume of water by the volume of the earth below it,
we have the Lake Ratio. The rate of return divided by the Lake Ratio, gives
another measure of volatility-normal return. Savings accounts and other
instruments that do not present draw downs do not collect lakes so their
Lake-adjusted returns can be infinite.

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個人是建議直接考慮極端狀況下能承受的最大槓桿就好
(以台指為例 就是兩或三根停板出現時 你願意賠幾趴)

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Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2013-07-04T00:14
這篇很不錯 推推 很多東西到現在還是一直沿用的
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2013-07-05T18:30
不過黃色的部分寫的並不太對 VaR跟拉回是無法任何關係的
VaR觀察一個月後的當下 拉回可能是一個月中間有拉破就GG
David avatar
By David
at 2013-07-09T07:10
而且VaR也沒辦法描述六標準差事件出來系統會死多慘 XD
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2013-07-12T16:40
板大~ 我跟你想法一樣 目前也是用兩三根停板當最大部位參考
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2013-07-15T04:20
VaR是特定期間突破MDD%的機率吧
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2013-07-17T17:34
樓上說的不對耶?
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2013-07-20T05:28
VaR是特定時間在一定的機率下績效會低於多少 應該是相反
的解釋了
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2013-07-24T01:11
並非特定期間破MDD% 他只看一個時間點 而非期間
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2013-07-28T06:20
而且他的output不是機率 而是虧損 input才是機率
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2013-07-29T08:52
另外想請教一下 關於Lake Ratio還有哪些參考資料可看嗎?
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2013-07-30T17:10
可能定義不一樣 我是根據Seytoka的說法
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2013-08-04T16:46
VaR是公開的標準了吧 差別在於估計的方法吧
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2013-08-07T22:41
查了一下wiki 同意你的說法

利用Multicharts做多市場分散01

Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2013-07-02T17:52
※ 引述《tallan (OsO)》之銘言: : 要看報表的圖請到 : http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_ab3b63d201017jqv.html : 我剛開始做程式交易時,犯了一個錯誤,就是在多策略分散上面 : 我定義一下我的多策略,在同一個市場,波段策略,用出了20個程式。 ...

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Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2013-07-01T13:16
之前推說避開跳空並沒有比較好 說明一下我個人的理由好了 純粹我個人的經驗 每天時間到就要被逼著出單一次 每次交易成本保守估計2點 一年大概被逼著要先負擔500點以上的虧損 這只是台指期喔 你換成小台 換成海外期 要負擔的成本會比這些更高 話說我剛開始接觸交易時很孬 所有策略都是當沖 但是因為我太笨了 當沖怎 ...

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Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2013-06-30T14:51
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Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2013-06-28T14:11
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excel dde 問題

Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2013-06-28T11:52
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