通縮還是通膨 - 股票QA

By Ula
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at 2022-05-22T15:37
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※ 引述《epicurious (晚上不睡覺能做些什麼)》之銘言:
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y6Hhb6TkEU&t=78s
: 雖然木頭姐最近被罵翻,還是分享一下她的觀點,大意是說Walmart, Home depot與Targe
: t目前庫存太多,早就不是去年供不應求,而是供過於求,因為去年供應鏈問題很多重複
: 下單,今年開始都降價求售,整個情況是失業率開始增加,商品開始跌價,租金開始下修
: ,二手車市場開始崩跌,我們將面臨的不是通膨,更有可能是通縮,FED終將會在今年某
: 個時間點停止目前所有錯誤的決策
: 我則是一直疑惑FED就算升息,只要經濟成長強勁,市場終究會由利率敏感的心理轉由關
: 心業績成長更多,而那時才要擔心過熱,因為從利率上升到市場意識到資金緊俏而開始反
: 應,至少都要半年到一年的時間(類似敘述在老柯的書到處都是),所以很疑惑為何這次才
: 剛升息市場已經崩跌得亂七八糟?從木頭解的訪談,才理解有無可能是另一個情況?就是
: 供應鏈引起的緊張與通膨已經開始劇烈的緩解,所以我們表面上看到的市場崩跌跟FED收
: 資金關係不大,而是衰退早就開始,俄烏戰爭與中國清零又給FED錯誤的訊息,以為要加
: 大力度收回資金,才能打擊本來就可能已經快要不存在的通膨,這是錯上加錯,雪上加霜
: ,但反過來說,一旦FED意識到自己的錯誤,趕快懸崖勒馬,可能就是大舉進場的時候,
: 不然FED現在以為自己身處保羅沃克的年代,好像蕭峰誤認阿朱是段正淳,失手將阿朱打
: 死,那美國就玩完了?
他要說通縮 尼可以先問他通縮定義是啥
可能他的通縮定義不太一樣
某些狀況人家會認為通膨<2%就算通縮惹 因為OOXXOOXX
當然通膨->利率問題
還是要看聯準會cpi報告
人家是看報告做決策der
不過路上很多分析師拿volcker出來講
我覺得對"歷史重演"有興趣的人
應該認真研究歷史
當年石油危機利率被一下拉到20%+
發生啥事?
經濟大規模衰退 失業率破10%
爆發大規模抗議 針對聯準會的大規模抗議差不多算史無前例
兩年後經濟回歸成長
但是通膨也只是10%->6%->4~3%
一直到1986才<2
而1986<2的原因是opec過去減產支撐油價
最終非opec生產持續拉高後價格撐不住 油價崩盤
簡單來講
通膨-利率-需求-油價
這些東西的都關係都不太直接
也就是說並不會因為尼利率拉到爆
通膨隔天就降下來惹 沒有
但是
衰退-失業-抗議-暴動
這就非常直接惹
任何有腦的決策者都不會想主動往那裏跳
所以說
基本上尼看美國各大新聞媒體上面粗乃喊通膨藥丸fed很爛的
高機率後面都是滿手空單
當然這也不是捨摸值得新鮮事94惹
現實是印鈔機水龍頭握在fed手上
他不鳥尼 尼也沒輒
研究fed行為最重要
回來講通膨
實際上cpi報告裡面比較關鍵的東西
跟walmart target在賣的東西都無關
所以這些賣場賣的東西只是表示目前零售業經營上的問題
兩家遇到的問題不一樣
也就是說這些問題有參考性但不是普遍性der
扣掉車油糧
目前醒目的東西還有房租
不過房租跟供給有關 房地產業者認為年底會緩解
2020年夏天開工許可爆增
但是這兩年間完工量並沒有增加 可以推估是被疫情拖到
還有機票價格
因為短期爆增所以在cpi月增上很醒目
年增很男 因為佔比只有0.5%
至於木頭姊講的二手車就有趣惹
屬於車貸的次貸風暴正在醞釀
車貸的次貸風暴會造成金融危機嗎?
答案是不可能 規模太小
不過很有機會在半年後搞爛二手車市場
回來講操作
我始終認為高可靠度的長線投資比較適合大多數願意做研究的投資人
雖然我自己也會小錢玩短線
雖然理論上勝率>50%就會賺錢
不過我覺得這種屁毛沒啥好講的
80% 90%準確抓住大型波段比較值得提
今年至今總共三次大型下跌波段
時間都不太長
除惹四月至今這波以外都一葛月左右就遇到大幅度反彈
這種情況要摸頭摸尾
對長線投資者而言幾乎不可能 這是操作週期的天生限制
所以那葛捨摸千萬級大空神講的............
沒有我不是針對他
我只是建議大家不要學
給長線投資者的話
記住簡單公式
估值變量=PE變量*eps變量
PE變量=PE*利率變量
簡單講pe20倍的公司遇到升息1%
大約可以預期估值會跌20%
也可以說如果升息1%
股價跌超過20%就可以買惹
現在的時間點
要應對升息環境
就要去挑那種eps會有超預期增長
而且幅度大過PE跌幅
GG在這種情況下就很複雜
因為GG受擴廠速度天生限制
eps今年很難有超預期增長
有些人問我現在484能源類最好
這我真的不熟
只聽過不少在投資這塊爆掉的故事
給大家參考一下
--
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y6Hhb6TkEU&t=78s
: t目前庫存太多,早就不是去年供不應求,而是供過於求,因為去年供應鏈問題很多重複
: 下單,今年開始都降價求售,整個情況是失業率開始增加,商品開始跌價,租金開始下修
: ,二手車市場開始崩跌,我們將面臨的不是通膨,更有可能是通縮,FED終將會在今年某
: 個時間點停止目前所有錯誤的決策
: 我則是一直疑惑FED就算升息,只要經濟成長強勁,市場終究會由利率敏感的心理轉由關
: 心業績成長更多,而那時才要擔心過熱,因為從利率上升到市場意識到資金緊俏而開始反
: 應,至少都要半年到一年的時間(類似敘述在老柯的書到處都是),所以很疑惑為何這次才
: 剛升息市場已經崩跌得亂七八糟?從木頭解的訪談,才理解有無可能是另一個情況?就是
: 供應鏈引起的緊張與通膨已經開始劇烈的緩解,所以我們表面上看到的市場崩跌跟FED收
: 資金關係不大,而是衰退早就開始,俄烏戰爭與中國清零又給FED錯誤的訊息,以為要加
: 大力度收回資金,才能打擊本來就可能已經快要不存在的通膨,這是錯上加錯,雪上加霜
: ,但反過來說,一旦FED意識到自己的錯誤,趕快懸崖勒馬,可能就是大舉進場的時候,
: 不然FED現在以為自己身處保羅沃克的年代,好像蕭峰誤認阿朱是段正淳,失手將阿朱打
: 死,那美國就玩完了?
他要說通縮 尼可以先問他通縮定義是啥
可能他的通縮定義不太一樣
某些狀況人家會認為通膨<2%就算通縮惹 因為OOXXOOXX
當然通膨->利率問題
還是要看聯準會cpi報告
人家是看報告做決策der
不過路上很多分析師拿volcker出來講
我覺得對"歷史重演"有興趣的人
應該認真研究歷史
當年石油危機利率被一下拉到20%+
發生啥事?
經濟大規模衰退 失業率破10%
爆發大規模抗議 針對聯準會的大規模抗議差不多算史無前例
兩年後經濟回歸成長
但是通膨也只是10%->6%->4~3%
一直到1986才<2
而1986<2的原因是opec過去減產支撐油價
最終非opec生產持續拉高後價格撐不住 油價崩盤
簡單來講
通膨-利率-需求-油價
這些東西的都關係都不太直接
也就是說並不會因為尼利率拉到爆
通膨隔天就降下來惹 沒有
但是
衰退-失業-抗議-暴動
這就非常直接惹
任何有腦的決策者都不會想主動往那裏跳
所以說
基本上尼看美國各大新聞媒體上面粗乃喊通膨藥丸fed很爛的
高機率後面都是滿手空單
當然這也不是捨摸值得新鮮事94惹
現實是印鈔機水龍頭握在fed手上
他不鳥尼 尼也沒輒
研究fed行為最重要
回來講通膨
實際上cpi報告裡面比較關鍵的東西
跟walmart target在賣的東西都無關
所以這些賣場賣的東西只是表示目前零售業經營上的問題
兩家遇到的問題不一樣
也就是說這些問題有參考性但不是普遍性der
扣掉車油糧
目前醒目的東西還有房租
不過房租跟供給有關 房地產業者認為年底會緩解
2020年夏天開工許可爆增
但是這兩年間完工量並沒有增加 可以推估是被疫情拖到
還有機票價格
因為短期爆增所以在cpi月增上很醒目
年增很男 因為佔比只有0.5%
至於木頭姊講的二手車就有趣惹
屬於車貸的次貸風暴正在醞釀
車貸的次貸風暴會造成金融危機嗎?
答案是不可能 規模太小
不過很有機會在半年後搞爛二手車市場
回來講操作
我始終認為高可靠度的長線投資比較適合大多數願意做研究的投資人
雖然我自己也會小錢玩短線
雖然理論上勝率>50%就會賺錢
不過我覺得這種屁毛沒啥好講的
80% 90%準確抓住大型波段比較值得提
今年至今總共三次大型下跌波段
時間都不太長
除惹四月至今這波以外都一葛月左右就遇到大幅度反彈
這種情況要摸頭摸尾
對長線投資者而言幾乎不可能 這是操作週期的天生限制
所以那葛捨摸千萬級大空神講的............
沒有我不是針對他
我只是建議大家不要學
給長線投資者的話
記住簡單公式
估值變量=PE變量*eps變量
PE變量=PE*利率變量
簡單講pe20倍的公司遇到升息1%
大約可以預期估值會跌20%
也可以說如果升息1%
股價跌超過20%就可以買惹
現在的時間點
要應對升息環境
就要去挑那種eps會有超預期增長
而且幅度大過PE跌幅
GG在這種情況下就很複雜
因為GG受擴廠速度天生限制
eps今年很難有超預期增長
有些人問我現在484能源類最好
這我真的不熟
只聽過不少在投資這塊爆掉的故事
給大家參考一下
--
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