股票股息 - 投資

By Rae
at 2012-03-23T15:00
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看完很多人討論這篇論壇,其實自己想分享一些東西,其實 "中鋼" 真的是一家好公司
但,為啥是 "好公司" ?
大家想一想,上市公司裡,很多公司大家都能說出那間公司的優秀領導者
ex : 台積電張忠謀、台朔王永慶 、宏達電王雪紅
但,當王老先生不在了,台朔還是以前的台朔嗎? 沒了張忠謀,還是以前的台積電嗎 ?
唯獨中鋼,大家沒聽過他聽過優秀的領導者是誰,因為他有最大的永續領導人-中華民國
一家好的公司就是要永續發展,永續經營,且中鋼的煉鋼技術是獨占性的,且品質很好
而且他是有實質上賺到外匯的一家公司!!! 因此中鋼是一個好的定存標的
再來,何謂 "賺錢" 公司 ?
那就是當今權值最重的台積電,為何選台積電?
1.因為台積電的權值最重,權值是用錢砸出來的,表示這家公司是賺錢的,且穩定
2.因為權值重,所以,他也貢獻給加權指數最多的一檔股票,所以大家會發現
時常尾盤拉指數都會拉誰 ? 當然是台積電!!
3.股票市場上,除了政府基金錢最多以外,還有誰的錢最多 ? 外資
外資以及政府是持有權值股最多的機構,原因是要用銀彈才能創造的,所以他們銀彈
最多,當然擁有最多!!
4.台積電散戶玩不死,如果大家在2011/1/28買台積電,到今天2012/03/22,
請問就算你中途都不去看盤,你的台積電能不能解套 ? 豈止解套,還獲利咧!!!
台積電只要高點過了,還會有高點出現!!!
5. 台積電有穩定的股利、股息 !!
然而,很多大大會說 : 那為啥不買宏達電,他不是更飆嗎? 也是權值很重的股票
但是,台積電一張多少錢? 宏達電一張多少錢? 比例 : 5 : 1
所以,我買5張台積電,拉的指數 跟 買1 張宏達電所拉的指數,效果哪個大?
當然外資會依照成本考量咯!!!
因此,總結...在我觀點裡,如果你是散戶的話 只有 中鋼 跟 台積電 是能投資的公司!!
※ 引述《leon99 (李奧)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《j8911029 (Xanxus)》之銘言:
: : 由於小弟目前身上有15萬元
: : 想說拿去定存覺得利息太少!!
: : 最近在研究股票!!還沒弄懂的狀態
: : 想說買個中鋼放著,領股息
: : 覺得會比定存來的高
: : 請問板上的有什麼可以指教的嗎?或是這個想法有問題的
: : 可以提出你們的看法 謝謝囉!!
: 我做的實驗是假設十年以來,你所能得到的現金股利跟股票股利
: 時間是從90年開始到99年
: 假設你90年初買了1000股(即一張)的中鋼
: 現金股利 股票股利 累計現金股利 累計股數
: 年度 現金股利 股票股利 1000
: 90 0.80 0.20 $800 20 $800 1020
: 91 1.40 0.15 $1,428 15 $2,228 1035
: 92 3.00 0.35 $3,106 36 $5,334 1072
: 93 3.90 0.50 $4,179 54 $9,513 1125
: 94 3.75 0.35 $4,219 39 $13,732 1164
: 95 2.78 0.30 $3,237 35 $16,969 1199
: 96 3.50 0.30 $4,198 36 $21,167 1235
: 97 1.30 0.43 $1,606 53 $22,773 1289
: 98 1.01 0.33 $1,301 43 $24,075 1331
: 99 1.99 0.50 $2,649 67 $26,724 1398
: 十年之後,即民國99年底能夠得到
: 累積現金$$26,724,累計股數1398
: 假設你當初買的價錢是今天的收盤價$29.95元的話
: 那你今天又以$29.95元賣出,你的報酬是
: 賣出股數29.95*1398+得到現金26724/成本29.95*1000
: 我用EXCEL跑的結果是十年報酬率128.99%(不含手續費)
: 年化報酬率8.64%,我想這是個讓人很滿意的結果。
: 如果你的買進均價是$20,賣出價格是今天的收盤價,那就很可怕了!
: 用賣出股數29.95*1398+得到現金26724/成本20*1000
: 十年報酬率183%,年化報酬率10.98%,用100萬十年後變成283萬,
: 看起來似乎很划算,不過很難等到這個價位。
: 以下才是重點,這個方法我的理論基礎是這樣,
: 畢竟我才進入股市剛滿兩年,所以當作參考就好。
: 這個方法重點是要買"穩定擴張"的公司,可以觀察公司的
: 股本是否有穩定膨脹,配發的股票股利數量,這種就是穩定成長的公司,
: 但是重點是要買到"盈餘能夠跟上股本膨脹速度"的股票,
: 不要公司拼命膨脹股本,結果盈餘沒辦法跟上股本膨脹速度,
: 反而導致公司周轉不靈,或是這個產業已經變成慘業,
: 簡單的方法就是買傳產,雖然爆發力不強,但是穩定擴張,
: 手上不缺現金,負債比率較低,配股配息率偏高,管理階層操守好...
: 像是吃的、用的、住的這些公司...
: 標的可以從你每天上班喝的咖啡、房子用的材料、身上穿的衣服、
: 你每個月繳的電話費、看電視的費用、開車加油費、喝的飲料、
: 吃的食品去找,無處不是投資標的,最重要的是他能否"穩定成長"
: 單純只配現金的公司,通常成長已經到了極限,市場給他的價格大概就這樣,
: 像是中華電信還減資退錢給股東,就知道你只能賺他現金股利,
: 實際上股票股利才是真正最大的報酬。
: 觀察產業、財務報表、經濟動向、挑選標的,就是要做的功課,
: 多存一些現金、在好的時間點切入,就是考驗功力了。
: 這個方法是我最近幾個月的研究心得,跟大家分享。
--
但,為啥是 "好公司" ?
大家想一想,上市公司裡,很多公司大家都能說出那間公司的優秀領導者
ex : 台積電張忠謀、台朔王永慶 、宏達電王雪紅
但,當王老先生不在了,台朔還是以前的台朔嗎? 沒了張忠謀,還是以前的台積電嗎 ?
唯獨中鋼,大家沒聽過他聽過優秀的領導者是誰,因為他有最大的永續領導人-中華民國
一家好的公司就是要永續發展,永續經營,且中鋼的煉鋼技術是獨占性的,且品質很好
而且他是有實質上賺到外匯的一家公司!!! 因此中鋼是一個好的定存標的
再來,何謂 "賺錢" 公司 ?
那就是當今權值最重的台積電,為何選台積電?
1.因為台積電的權值最重,權值是用錢砸出來的,表示這家公司是賺錢的,且穩定
2.因為權值重,所以,他也貢獻給加權指數最多的一檔股票,所以大家會發現
時常尾盤拉指數都會拉誰 ? 當然是台積電!!
3.股票市場上,除了政府基金錢最多以外,還有誰的錢最多 ? 外資
外資以及政府是持有權值股最多的機構,原因是要用銀彈才能創造的,所以他們銀彈
最多,當然擁有最多!!
4.台積電散戶玩不死,如果大家在2011/1/28買台積電,到今天2012/03/22,
請問就算你中途都不去看盤,你的台積電能不能解套 ? 豈止解套,還獲利咧!!!
台積電只要高點過了,還會有高點出現!!!
5. 台積電有穩定的股利、股息 !!
然而,很多大大會說 : 那為啥不買宏達電,他不是更飆嗎? 也是權值很重的股票
但是,台積電一張多少錢? 宏達電一張多少錢? 比例 : 5 : 1
所以,我買5張台積電,拉的指數 跟 買1 張宏達電所拉的指數,效果哪個大?
當然外資會依照成本考量咯!!!
因此,總結...在我觀點裡,如果你是散戶的話 只有 中鋼 跟 台積電 是能投資的公司!!
※ 引述《leon99 (李奧)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《j8911029 (Xanxus)》之銘言:
: : 由於小弟目前身上有15萬元
: : 想說拿去定存覺得利息太少!!
: : 最近在研究股票!!還沒弄懂的狀態
: : 想說買個中鋼放著,領股息
: : 覺得會比定存來的高
: : 請問板上的有什麼可以指教的嗎?或是這個想法有問題的
: : 可以提出你們的看法 謝謝囉!!
: 我做的實驗是假設十年以來,你所能得到的現金股利跟股票股利
: 時間是從90年開始到99年
: 假設你90年初買了1000股(即一張)的中鋼
: 現金股利 股票股利 累計現金股利 累計股數
: 年度 現金股利 股票股利 1000
: 90 0.80 0.20 $800 20 $800 1020
: 91 1.40 0.15 $1,428 15 $2,228 1035
: 92 3.00 0.35 $3,106 36 $5,334 1072
: 93 3.90 0.50 $4,179 54 $9,513 1125
: 94 3.75 0.35 $4,219 39 $13,732 1164
: 95 2.78 0.30 $3,237 35 $16,969 1199
: 96 3.50 0.30 $4,198 36 $21,167 1235
: 97 1.30 0.43 $1,606 53 $22,773 1289
: 98 1.01 0.33 $1,301 43 $24,075 1331
: 99 1.99 0.50 $2,649 67 $26,724 1398
: 十年之後,即民國99年底能夠得到
: 累積現金$$26,724,累計股數1398
: 假設你當初買的價錢是今天的收盤價$29.95元的話
: 那你今天又以$29.95元賣出,你的報酬是
: 賣出股數29.95*1398+得到現金26724/成本29.95*1000
: 我用EXCEL跑的結果是十年報酬率128.99%(不含手續費)
: 年化報酬率8.64%,我想這是個讓人很滿意的結果。
: 如果你的買進均價是$20,賣出價格是今天的收盤價,那就很可怕了!
: 用賣出股數29.95*1398+得到現金26724/成本20*1000
: 十年報酬率183%,年化報酬率10.98%,用100萬十年後變成283萬,
: 看起來似乎很划算,不過很難等到這個價位。
: 以下才是重點,這個方法我的理論基礎是這樣,
: 畢竟我才進入股市剛滿兩年,所以當作參考就好。
: 這個方法重點是要買"穩定擴張"的公司,可以觀察公司的
: 股本是否有穩定膨脹,配發的股票股利數量,這種就是穩定成長的公司,
: 但是重點是要買到"盈餘能夠跟上股本膨脹速度"的股票,
: 不要公司拼命膨脹股本,結果盈餘沒辦法跟上股本膨脹速度,
: 反而導致公司周轉不靈,或是這個產業已經變成慘業,
: 簡單的方法就是買傳產,雖然爆發力不強,但是穩定擴張,
: 手上不缺現金,負債比率較低,配股配息率偏高,管理階層操守好...
: 像是吃的、用的、住的這些公司...
: 標的可以從你每天上班喝的咖啡、房子用的材料、身上穿的衣服、
: 你每個月繳的電話費、看電視的費用、開車加油費、喝的飲料、
: 吃的食品去找,無處不是投資標的,最重要的是他能否"穩定成長"
: 單純只配現金的公司,通常成長已經到了極限,市場給他的價格大概就這樣,
: 像是中華電信還減資退錢給股東,就知道你只能賺他現金股利,
: 實際上股票股利才是真正最大的報酬。
: 觀察產業、財務報表、經濟動向、挑選標的,就是要做的功課,
: 多存一些現金、在好的時間點切入,就是考驗功力了。
: 這個方法是我最近幾個月的研究心得,跟大家分享。
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