Moderna疫苗早期臨床試驗結果有效 - 股票

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By Annie
at 2020-05-18T23:55

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※ 引述《Dimitre (迪米崔)》之銘言:
: 1.原文連結:
: ※過長無法點擊者必須縮網址
: https://reurl.cc/GVGreD
: 2.原文內容:
: Moderna’s closely watched early-stage human trial for a coronavirus vaccine
: produced Covid-19 antibodies in all 45 participants, the biotech company
: announced Monday.
: Each participant was assigned to receive a 25 microgram, 100 mcg or 250 mcg
: dose, with 15 people in each dose group. Study participants received two
: doses of the potential vaccine via intramuscular injection in the upper arm
: approximately 28 days apart. Data on a second dose was not available for the
: 250 mcg group, the company said.
: At day 43, or two weeks following the second dose, levels of binding
: antibodies in the 25 mcg group were at the levels generally seen in blood
: samples from people who recovered from the disease, the company said.
: Antibodies in the 100 mcg had antibodies that “significantly exceeded levels
: ” in recovered patients.
: The vaccine also produced neutralizing antibodies against Covid-19 in at
: least eight participants, the company said. Four participants were assigned
: to receive a 25 microgram dose, while the other four received 100 mcg. Levels
: of neutralizing antibodies were at or above levels in blood samples, the
: company said. Data on neutralizing antibodies for the other participants were
: not yet available, Moderna said.
: “These interim Phase 1 data, while early, demonstrate that vaccination with
: mRNA-1273 elicits an immune response of the magnitude caused by natural
: infection starting with a dose as low as 25 μg,” Tal Zaks, the chief
: medical officer at Moderna, said in s statement.
: “When combined with the success in preventing viral replication in the lungs
: of a pre-clinical challenge model at a dose that elicited similar levels of
: neutralizing antibodies, these data substantiate our belief that mRNA-1273
: has the potential to prevent COVID-19 disease and advance our ability to
: select a dose for pivotal trials,” Zaks added.
: There are formally approved treatments for Covid-19, which has killed at
: least 315,225 and sickened 4.7 million people worldwide since emerging from
: the Chinese city of Wuhan more than 4 months ago, according to data compiled
: by Johns Hopkins University.
: Moderna has been fast-tracking work with the National Institutes of Health,
: an agency within the Department of Health and Human Services, to develop a
: vaccine.
: The company said the vaccine was generally safe and well tolerated.
: The potential vaccine by Moderna contains genetic material called messenger
: RNA, or mRNA, that was produced in a lab. The mRNA is a genetic code that
: tells cells what to build — in this case, an antigen that may induce an
: immune response for the virus.
: The phase 1 trial took place at the Kaiser Permanente Washington Health
: Research Institute in Seattle, Washington. It tested the vaccine on 45 males
: and non-pregnant females between the ages of 18 and 55.


如果把細菌比喻成敵軍, 抗體就是保護身體的軍隊.

一個正常國家, 只要遭受入侵就會反擊 > 這就是產生抗體.

但是抗體有特異性, 只對某種病毒有效. 拿對付一般感冒的抗體打武漢肺炎是沒有用的

就像是病毒開坦克近來, 我們讓士兵拿50手槍反擊, 叮叮噹噹效果跟BB槍差不多.

應該要找有RPG的抗體過來才對.



回到報導, 這篇報導包含三個訊息

1. 25ug即可引發免疫反應.

這是好消息. 代表只要少量的假想敵就可以讓身體產生軍隊準備抗敵.

2. 100ug劑量產生的的抗體量超過恢復期的量

好消息. 越多假想敵, 身體會製造越多軍隊.

3. 少部分人有副作用, 但無生命危險.

算好消息吧? 至少還不會自己被假想敵幹掉, 尚可接受.

但樣本數低, 擴大接踵後未必不會出現致死.

例如: 流感感冒疫苗還是有案例接踵後致死.


這三點代表這個疫苗是可接受的 (但不代表有效)

但這也並不能說是什麼重大突破, 畢竟疫苗本該就要觸發免疫反應 (促進身體製造軍隊)

如果沒辦法, 那不如注射一罐舒跑好了.



以上是這篇新聞所含的訊息




比較重要的應該是這篇新聞內的一段

這是他們自己公司發的

https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/
moderna-announces-positive-interim-phase-1-data-its-mrna-vaccine


At this time, neutralizing antibody data are available only for the first
four participants in each of the 25 μg and 100 μg dose level cohorts.
Consistent with the binding antibody data, mRNA-1273 vaccination elicited
neutralizing antibodies in all eight of these participants, as measured by
plaque reduction neutralization (PRNT) assays against live SARS-CoV-2. The
levels of neutralizing antibodies at day 43 were at or above levels generally
seen in convalescent sera.


4. 8個病人有產生可以對付新冠的抗體.

不過他們的意思好像是只做8個取樣, 25ug的病人 x4 100ug的病人 x4

8位都有產生可以對付新冠的抗體.


看上去是100%啦

但是用這消息來看是否有效言之過早, 因為檢驗有沒有效是更後面的事情,

有更嚴格且更可靠的檢驗.

這邊只能說是偷喵看答案. 先給大家聞一下香味, 真香一下. 炒個股票.



有做過研究的都知道, 實驗數據常常報喜不報憂. 就算內行人也常常被忽悠得團團轉.

現在這個聲明來自於自家公司, 也沒有任何數據或是實驗圖片佐證.

到底這個士兵拿的RPG是真的火箭彈, 還是水火箭.

還是要等到第三階段才知道

目前結果大家聽聽就好, 不要真以為是解藥.


補充: 會叫大家不要相信解藥出來了, 是因為這個聲明說"有效", 可中和病毒.

但這個在實驗中的"有效", 其實是個很大的模糊地帶.

就像雅量課文說的, 有人看像稿紙, 有人看像棋盤, 但對我來說它就是塊綠豆糕.

媽的綠豆糕這也差太多了吧.

但你又不能說我錯, 這是"我的"解讀阿.

所以除非論文發出來, 不然就再看看囉.



不過炒股還是可以炒啦

畢竟大家不在乎真相, 只在乎股價.


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Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2020-05-23T15:19
這樣就已經夠了,ok?
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2020-05-25T16:43
好像有3個出現嚴重副作用,多嚴重沒說
Una avatar
By Una
at 2020-05-28T01:57
好dery
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2020-05-29T05:17
mrna目前漲26% who care 細節
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2020-05-30T09:19
j大很像滿怕疫苗股去衝擊到其他防疫股的說XD
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2020-06-01T15:01
沒人在乎 噴就對了
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2020-06-04T14:26
今天美股差不多也是這樣了,繼續往上攻的力道不足
說不定尾盤還要往下拉一點
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2020-06-07T10:34
8個人 =漲停8根
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2020-06-08T22:10
我是不知道你被嘎了幾張空單啦,實話實說而已
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2020-06-12T13:14
講得淺顯易懂給推
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2020-06-14T07:38
舒跑可以注射嗎?
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2020-06-17T00:24
瑞德西韋還有報告出來,這個什麼東西都沒有
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2020-06-21T22:52
市場就是找到理由可以嘎 那就尊重市場是對的
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2020-06-22T18:12
先前國光的新聞也是說疫苗有效(笑)
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2020-06-25T19:28
who car
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2020-06-27T17:55
都漲快1000點了,還在上攻力道不足...是太習慣熔斷
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2020-07-02T03:28
推,雅量,共同記憶
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2020-07-06T14:17
3個有副作用是劑量太高 輕量的十倍 所以這可以忽略
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2020-07-10T00:30
噴了嗎... 本來上升段就很容易猶疑而不會一步到位
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2020-07-13T09:15
所以國光漲了啊哈哈
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2020-07-15T00:02
明天優先掛高端,其他防疫股就意思意思一下看狀況囉
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2020-07-19T08:52
快,到底要買哪一支?
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2020-07-22T04:28
all in融資開滿等數錢
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2020-07-24T15:57
少數人怎麼解讀不重要,股市重點是多數人怎麼想。
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-07-27T11:23
不要在嚇空軍了
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2020-07-28T23:00
8個人漲8百點 好準
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2020-08-02T15:33
學術討論不重要,股票會噴就好,重點是要來得及上
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2020-08-05T08:41
如果全世界的人都是研究生技的專家 那明天疫苗股
漲幅不大
但問題是不是
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2020-08-08T12:32
可惜不是
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2020-08-10T23:41
想起台灣生技股 先喊先贏 後面的 管他的
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2020-08-12T12:52
有這樣的專業分析才好吧。如果疫苗真的有效,你的
多單可以放心長抱;如果疫苗離成功還有很遠的距離
,你至少比其它狂歡中的散戶知道要早一步下車。
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2020-08-13T13:58
原本應該很多人想加入進香團,疫苗消息出來後,或許
成為高端份子、國光幫會更熱門XD
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2020-08-14T20:15
希望不是從前有一個太監
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2020-08-16T23:44
葉佩 舒跑 哈哈
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-08-17T23:46
現在疫苗股都是先喊先贏
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2020-08-20T21:07
原來是葉佩雯= =
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2020-08-23T04:06
說不定拿的是標槍飛彈呢
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2020-08-23T12:20
管他的,這種消息就是先漲停3天再說
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2020-08-26T16:47
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2020-08-31T04:14
先炒一波阿
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-09-04T20:28
對啦,借題發揮漲三天又再掉下來了,沒什麼
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2020-09-05T13:49
嘎慘
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2020-09-07T18:43
專業翻譯推
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2020-09-08T07:49
了解是真有用還假有用,你才能比別人搶得先機,要跑
要抱才有底阿,不是?
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2020-09-09T16:17
連花王都可以炒作,高端一定噴爆
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2020-09-12T09:09
也不想想上次國光有好消息漲了多久,怎麼可能只漲三
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2020-09-16T07:47
在三期還沒跑完之前 難道你要一直當無效?
只會一直怎麼可能@% 看著飆上去
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-09-17T01:50
漲停3天也有30%啊
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2020-09-21T11:26
浩鼎在解盲前也是一直漲
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2020-09-23T09:53
不懂唱衰的是在高尚啥
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2020-09-27T05:44
推這篇
George avatar
By George
at 2020-09-27T07:04
有道理!
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2020-10-01T05:14
舒跑概念股感覺比較穩(誤
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2020-10-05T18:23
懂~ 買起來
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2020-10-08T19:19
唱衰的是怕原先口罩一片光明的美夢被疫苗股搶走風采
啊,看上面的po文就知道,嘻嘻
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2020-10-13T01:24
本來以為口罩可以爽到年底,結果qq
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2020-10-15T19:18
雪貂就是ferret 不用再加snow
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2020-10-16T12:59
口罩真的不要玩 現在大招出口已經開了 再套沒招了
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2020-10-17T14:27
某人不知道被嘎幾張空單,在那邊套人家帽,可憐哪
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2020-10-21T17:46
疫苗一炒口罩就不潮了,想像空間差太多
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2020-10-24T00:53
ˋ結論非常好
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2020-10-26T10:11
口罩應該還是短多吧 但啥時下去就不知道了
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2020-10-28T19:22
至於一堆講得好像疫苗量產的就乖乖炒吧 祝賺錢
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2020-10-29T21:04
...根本就只是出來放消息炒股的 樣本數少到可憐 我
看是選擇過的吧
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2020-11-01T03:50
沒關係啦,大家還是可以買口罩股 這樣比較不傷感情
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2020-11-06T03:02
明天口罩崩
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2020-11-07T22:12
口罩帶到煩了 現在還買口罩股是87嗎
戴到
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2020-11-12T19:14
如果你在疫情區你敢不戴口罩嗎?
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2020-11-13T23:31
低劑量就引發免疫反應??感覺就很奇怪
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2020-11-17T12:06
當然疫苗不是直接打肺炎病毒進去,但如果低劑量就
可以有效產生抗體,早就群體免疫了吧...
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-11-22T05:27
不管是減毒疫苗還是非活化疫苗 低劑量都很奇怪
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2020-11-26T09:07
啊他就不是減毒也不是非活化R
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2020-12-01T03:28
樓上教主
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2020-12-05T13:16
數據是可信的,臨床一期15人x3組也是OK的,沒有人
數太少的問題,一期算是成功的,重點在於只是一期
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2020-12-06T06:07
理性給推!但炒股不在理性的範疇下
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2020-12-07T05:54
看到雅量 我推了
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2020-12-07T14:08
重點是先炒再說
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2020-12-09T05:28
美股都火山爆發了 誰還在乎有沒有效?
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2020-12-10T22:27
疫苗沒那麼簡單啦,即使是萬分之一的副作用都是不可
接受的
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2020-12-11T18:50
進入二期的藥好像也只有10%能上市
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2020-12-12T18:07
難道要等三期成功再買?有些人是不是想先吃貨
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2020-12-13T05:54
現在又不是噴回3萬了。跑出一堆勸世或專家來...
James avatar
By James
at 2020-12-15T17:38
事實上主要還是法人在操盤,不可能大部分都不懂阿
這純粹只是市場信心問題~
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2020-12-19T19:16
等後期實驗失敗或解封爆發感染就會殺了嘛,阿如果
沒影響那麼多,就會慢慢爬上去了阿...擔心太多
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2020-12-20T02:02
除非要長抱,不然趕在一期甚至一期前就進場的用意是
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2020-12-20T05:14
NBC說45個全都產生抗體
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2020-12-22T14:38
好的,大噴。我也知道還早,但股價絕對不會等我
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2020-12-25T03:33
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2020-12-27T02:03
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2020-12-31T07:00
高端噴爆
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-01-03T02:18
好的不可思議
John avatar
By John
at 2021-01-05T15:20
精闢
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2021-01-07T10:53
只在乎有沒有撒錢 不在乎基本面
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2021-01-08T23:13
哈哈 你寫的好有趣!
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2021-01-13T11:02
這塊綠豆糕砸掉我到嘴的肥肉 啃
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2021-01-16T04:46
基亞在之前都樂觀到爆炸
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2021-01-18T04:17
也許該公司用了什麼特別的佐劑吧

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at 2020-05-18T23:52
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Blanche avatar
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