買原油ETF沒在跟你看溢價的 - 股票
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By Xanthe
at 2020-05-02T23:11
at 2020-05-02T23:11
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※ 引述《clex (預約簡單的幸福)》之銘言:
: 好像富邦vix上次溢價30%,就被打趴到2塊多,結果元大原油類的ETF,像是
: 正2還可以溢價超過300%,真是威猛!溢價這麼多還是照樣買,這可能算是多
: 頭市場的特性,祝福買進的大大加碼愉快!搞不好溢價越大越多人搶買!加油!
: ※ 引述《obey1110 (obey)》之銘言:
: : 剛開始不懂etf的確是這樣想
: : 不過了解後,真的有點買不下手
: : 00642u溢價60趴,追蹤的商品12月期貨又溢價50趴
: : 那不如找被低估的股票買就好了
: : 至少不是警示股買賣也方便多了
趁假日沒盤期間想拋出跟板上風向不同的看法,可以討論看看
以下不推薦買或賣此ETF只是提供別種思路供研究
溢價:板上人人喊打,成因不細究跳到個人結論
1.首先最怕下市遭清算時,拿到的是淨值而不是買入價格
不管甚麼基於甚麼原因,總之現在據稱續命到九月才可能下市
若是依此前提下溢價就算到999%又如何?
2.像是正一申請總額上限增加導致價格崩跌,但最近的申請又沒過,暫不理
3.轉倉影響,當然可以說轉到12月避開近月波動令人詬病,不過早前一波負油價
沒轉倉的結果可能直接淨值0 連九月都稱不到,再說現在買油不就是看好近月油低
年底12油大概率會比現在高,而且依現在的低股價飆起來也跟"正二"一樣瘋
感覺起來 像是有奇怪規則的標的股票,重點是還能不能賺錢?
在短期間不下市的前提下,溢價或許不如想像中的可怕
當然重點還是在國際油價,之前說跌破多少美國、俄國、沙國會撐不住
細想一下,即使撐不住倒掉,油田是會不見嗎?
等到未來油價高於重新開採時再重啟油田,這樣壓低油價打擊他國的策略用意為何?
個人猜想,或許負油價才是這波壓油價的目的
直接摜壓多方,油國為什麼不能當短暫空方,而且在短期間內又回到20油
本來花錢讓你來載油,怎可能不到兩周內油庫又有空間了
美川對石油的態度也是前面很熱,後來就沒看到對負油價的相應作法保國內油商
因此國際油我跟大部分人看法一樣看多
之前好像有在推文問過,人人都知道油價未來會漲,但在台灣能怎買
當時還有人提跳過ETF自己來開期貨玩,這個現在看來比買正二風險還大太多...
以上 供討論,或許跟板上風向不同我也知,本意不在推薦,更像是對我手上只有
10張被套正二找理由
--
: 好像富邦vix上次溢價30%,就被打趴到2塊多,結果元大原油類的ETF,像是
: 正2還可以溢價超過300%,真是威猛!溢價這麼多還是照樣買,這可能算是多
: 頭市場的特性,祝福買進的大大加碼愉快!搞不好溢價越大越多人搶買!加油!
: ※ 引述《obey1110 (obey)》之銘言:
: : 剛開始不懂etf的確是這樣想
: : 不過了解後,真的有點買不下手
: : 00642u溢價60趴,追蹤的商品12月期貨又溢價50趴
: : 那不如找被低估的股票買就好了
: : 至少不是警示股買賣也方便多了
趁假日沒盤期間想拋出跟板上風向不同的看法,可以討論看看
以下不推薦買或賣此ETF只是提供別種思路供研究
溢價:板上人人喊打,成因不細究跳到個人結論
1.首先最怕下市遭清算時,拿到的是淨值而不是買入價格
不管甚麼基於甚麼原因,總之現在據稱續命到九月才可能下市
若是依此前提下溢價就算到999%又如何?
2.像是正一申請總額上限增加導致價格崩跌,但最近的申請又沒過,暫不理
3.轉倉影響,當然可以說轉到12月避開近月波動令人詬病,不過早前一波負油價
沒轉倉的結果可能直接淨值0 連九月都稱不到,再說現在買油不就是看好近月油低
年底12油大概率會比現在高,而且依現在的低股價飆起來也跟"正二"一樣瘋
感覺起來 像是有奇怪規則的標的股票,重點是還能不能賺錢?
在短期間不下市的前提下,溢價或許不如想像中的可怕
當然重點還是在國際油價,之前說跌破多少美國、俄國、沙國會撐不住
細想一下,即使撐不住倒掉,油田是會不見嗎?
等到未來油價高於重新開採時再重啟油田,這樣壓低油價打擊他國的策略用意為何?
個人猜想,或許負油價才是這波壓油價的目的
直接摜壓多方,油國為什麼不能當短暫空方,而且在短期間內又回到20油
本來花錢讓你來載油,怎可能不到兩周內油庫又有空間了
美川對石油的態度也是前面很熱,後來就沒看到對負油價的相應作法保國內油商
因此國際油我跟大部分人看法一樣看多
之前好像有在推文問過,人人都知道油價未來會漲,但在台灣能怎買
當時還有人提跳過ETF自己來開期貨玩,這個現在看來比買正二風險還大太多...
以上 供討論,或許跟板上風向不同我也知,本意不在推薦,更像是對我手上只有
10張被套正二找理由
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