介紹一個8~12%的投資 - 投資
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By Skylar DavisLinda
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這裡你的問題可以細分為兩項
1.你著重於為什麼我自己不投資這點
如果我借錢來投資,是否你就會參與投資呢?
如果是,那我們到公司立個條約,開一張具法律約束力的文件
然後我會陪同你到各小額借款來借錢投資,是為了讓你安心
那也請你準備2萬美金,我們一同開戶。
2.如果你壓根就不想參與,那我也沒辦法改變你
而你的問題,我幹麻不借錢投資,對你的影響意義也不大了。
最後你在簽名檔有提到,
聽說外匯經紀商手續費抽1%,而年報酬的套利8%不自己做
你覺得這是白痴的午餐。
詳細分析一下,
外匯市場上每一口單位規格為10萬USD
而每次交易收取2~10點的點差不等
每進、出各一次收取0~5點手續費不等
規格為10萬USD 1點約10USD的差異
我用較便宜的費用,就是收取最低2點點差,而且不另外收取手續費
2點約20美元,一口規格10萬美元,所以做一口的交易費用約萬分之2
以上,是官方說法
但外匯經紀商又以保證金制度來提供投資人
保證金的槓桿比約50~200倍不等
以50倍計算,一口十萬美元規格,實際只需2000美元即可成交
而20美元的手續費,在投資人的觀點其實是20/2000 也就是2%
用平均較保守的交易員來說,一天平均交易一口,也就是負擔2%手續費
一年52個禮拜 約260天扣除其它外匯停市日,我用230天好了
一交易日有2%進帳,一年230天 外匯經紀商光收手續費就有430%
以上是我用最低點差,零手續費,槓桿倍數50來計算
你一定聽過更多。
也就是說 投資人有2萬美金 外匯經紀商會比較喜歡你投資2萬美金做交易
而不是用套利來獲得年報酬8%
成本方面,
交易→外匯市場,外匯經紀商是第三者角色,接收即時的國際匯價並提供投資客
而投資客做出交易,外匯經紀商再將交易數量即時傳達報價的銀行
他只從中收取雙方手續費。
套利→外匯經紀商由各銀行報價中,以電腦查詢到同一貨幣的不同匯率
可進行套利時,電腦會直接買低賣高,完成交易需時不到一秒。
這時外匯經紀商的角色等於買進報價低銀行,再賣給一個報價高的銀行
所以套利交易時,手上需持有一筆資金來進行。
而每個投資開戶,需要管理,每次套利就發出訊息通知客戶
每個客戶各別的帳目明細處理,這些都是成本
也是因此最底限2萬美金來控制開戶的數量 (有些10萬可以切割5個帳戶)
最後,外匯經紀商的套利產品,最主要是讓在外匯交易上有個組合式的穩定收益
例10萬美金可分 9萬套利 1萬交易,交易即使全輸,一年也有約99%的本金。
我很謝謝版友提出質疑地方,但也請版友在質疑同時,帶著理性且尊重的心態
你說的沒錯,我窮,也只是窮現在。
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這裡你的問題可以細分為兩項
1.你著重於為什麼我自己不投資這點
如果我借錢來投資,是否你就會參與投資呢?
如果是,那我們到公司立個條約,開一張具法律約束力的文件
然後我會陪同你到各小額借款來借錢投資,是為了讓你安心
那也請你準備2萬美金,我們一同開戶。
2.如果你壓根就不想參與,那我也沒辦法改變你
而你的問題,我幹麻不借錢投資,對你的影響意義也不大了。
最後你在簽名檔有提到,
聽說外匯經紀商手續費抽1%,而年報酬的套利8%不自己做
你覺得這是白痴的午餐。
詳細分析一下,
外匯市場上每一口單位規格為10萬USD
而每次交易收取2~10點的點差不等
每進、出各一次收取0~5點手續費不等
規格為10萬USD 1點約10USD的差異
我用較便宜的費用,就是收取最低2點點差,而且不另外收取手續費
2點約20美元,一口規格10萬美元,所以做一口的交易費用約萬分之2
以上,是官方說法
但外匯經紀商又以保證金制度來提供投資人
保證金的槓桿比約50~200倍不等
以50倍計算,一口十萬美元規格,實際只需2000美元即可成交
而20美元的手續費,在投資人的觀點其實是20/2000 也就是2%
用平均較保守的交易員來說,一天平均交易一口,也就是負擔2%手續費
一年52個禮拜 約260天扣除其它外匯停市日,我用230天好了
一交易日有2%進帳,一年230天 外匯經紀商光收手續費就有430%
以上是我用最低點差,零手續費,槓桿倍數50來計算
你一定聽過更多。
也就是說 投資人有2萬美金 外匯經紀商會比較喜歡你投資2萬美金做交易
而不是用套利來獲得年報酬8%
成本方面,
交易→外匯市場,外匯經紀商是第三者角色,接收即時的國際匯價並提供投資客
而投資客做出交易,外匯經紀商再將交易數量即時傳達報價的銀行
他只從中收取雙方手續費。
套利→外匯經紀商由各銀行報價中,以電腦查詢到同一貨幣的不同匯率
可進行套利時,電腦會直接買低賣高,完成交易需時不到一秒。
這時外匯經紀商的角色等於買進報價低銀行,再賣給一個報價高的銀行
所以套利交易時,手上需持有一筆資金來進行。
而每個投資開戶,需要管理,每次套利就發出訊息通知客戶
每個客戶各別的帳目明細處理,這些都是成本
也是因此最底限2萬美金來控制開戶的數量 (有些10萬可以切割5個帳戶)
最後,外匯經紀商的套利產品,最主要是讓在外匯交易上有個組合式的穩定收益
例10萬美金可分 9萬套利 1萬交易,交易即使全輸,一年也有約99%的本金。
我很謝謝版友提出質疑地方,但也請版友在質疑同時,帶著理性且尊重的心態
你說的沒錯,我窮,也只是窮現在。
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