中國出口數據造假嚴重II - 股票QA

By Candice
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※ 引述《dolphin22022 (Yosi)》之銘言:
: 上次我用中國越南進出口數據說明中國造假嚴重,因為理論上中國出口越南要等於越南
進
: 口中國的值,然中國出口值卻比越南進口值高了42%(原文如下)
: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Stock/M.1681912440.A.0B5.html
: 然而也收到一些反饋,有的說越南也是共產國家、沒有代表性,有的人說進出口計算方
法
: 不能類比,所以我等他國出口數據出爐,也搜了一些中國牆內關於中國出口數據造假的
文
: 章,希望能釐清這些問題
: 1. 1-4月中國出口馬來西亞比馬來西亞進口中國多了62%,甚至比越南更多
: 有人說光越南沒有代表性、越南也是共產國家也可能造假
: 我就找了馬來西亞,他是繼越南之後,中國對東盟的第二大出口國
: 數據是用馬幣計算,我用馬幣最值錢的值計算,得出馬來西亞進口中國的最大值是830
億
: *0.23=191億美元
: https://i.imgur.com/cVijMg2.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/jRySK9a.jpg
: 再看中國海關數據,直接給你來個310億美元,直接虛增了62%,比越南的42%還扯
: https://i.imgur.com/qQPvfGa.jpg
: 62%別再跟我講什麼統計不同了...
: 2.牆內也有經濟學者指出出口數據造假,前幾高贊留言都是認同
: 很多人覺得這就是灣灣見不得祖國經濟強大
: 我就找到牆內文章,似是某券商首席經濟學家寫得
: 這篇文章我後面會引用,先上圖和網址,文章很長,但也可以看出論證有理有據
: https://i.imgur.com/GtMGL3O.jpg
: 下面是文章網址
: https://m.163.com/dy/article/
https://www.businesstoday.com.tw/article/category/183025/post/202305050029/
之前剛好看到今周刊在探討中國外匯存底到底跑到哪邊去了,我找了一下,文章如上
重點是下面這張圖
https://i.imgur.com/5h6NJkK.jpg
外管局是實際有錢進來,海關可能有一堆虛報騙補,外管局應該相對可信
其實可以看到,外管局統計的貨貿順差與海關差異日漸增加,如果照外管局來看,今年第
一季乘以4差額會擴大到3000億美金
中國去年的落差幅度是6793/8776=77%
今年第一季是1299/2047=63%
也就是假設中國海關官方顯示出口1元
去年根據外管局數字只有0.77、今年只有0.63
印象中國海關出口今年和去年差不多,根據外管局數字,大概是衰退了1-63/77=18%
衰退18%就跟台灣還有東南亞諸國的衰退幅度差不多,中國做為國際生產鏈的一環,和周
遭分工國家衰退一致,也比較符合邏輯
BTW 質疑中國兩兆美金外匯到哪去的人微博帳號被封了,可能代表中國的帳真的有問題
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: 上次我用中國越南進出口數據說明中國造假嚴重,因為理論上中國出口越南要等於越南
進
: 口中國的值,然中國出口值卻比越南進口值高了42%(原文如下)
: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Stock/M.1681912440.A.0B5.html
: 然而也收到一些反饋,有的說越南也是共產國家、沒有代表性,有的人說進出口計算方
法
: 不能類比,所以我等他國出口數據出爐,也搜了一些中國牆內關於中國出口數據造假的
文
: 章,希望能釐清這些問題
: 1. 1-4月中國出口馬來西亞比馬來西亞進口中國多了62%,甚至比越南更多
: 有人說光越南沒有代表性、越南也是共產國家也可能造假
: 我就找了馬來西亞,他是繼越南之後,中國對東盟的第二大出口國
: 數據是用馬幣計算,我用馬幣最值錢的值計算,得出馬來西亞進口中國的最大值是830
億
: *0.23=191億美元
: https://i.imgur.com/cVijMg2.jpg


: https://i.imgur.com/qQPvfGa.jpg

: 2.牆內也有經濟學者指出出口數據造假,前幾高贊留言都是認同
: 很多人覺得這就是灣灣見不得祖國經濟強大
: 我就找到牆內文章,似是某券商首席經濟學家寫得
: 這篇文章我後面會引用,先上圖和網址,文章很長,但也可以看出論證有理有據
: https://i.imgur.com/GtMGL3O.jpg

: https://m.163.com/dy/article/
https://www.businesstoday.com.tw/article/category/183025/post/202305050029/
之前剛好看到今周刊在探討中國外匯存底到底跑到哪邊去了,我找了一下,文章如上
重點是下面這張圖
https://i.imgur.com/5h6NJkK.jpg

外管局是實際有錢進來,海關可能有一堆虛報騙補,外管局應該相對可信
其實可以看到,外管局統計的貨貿順差與海關差異日漸增加,如果照外管局來看,今年第
一季乘以4差額會擴大到3000億美金
中國去年的落差幅度是6793/8776=77%
今年第一季是1299/2047=63%
也就是假設中國海關官方顯示出口1元
去年根據外管局數字只有0.77、今年只有0.63
印象中國海關出口今年和去年差不多,根據外管局數字,大概是衰退了1-63/77=18%
衰退18%就跟台灣還有東南亞諸國的衰退幅度差不多,中國做為國際生產鏈的一環,和周
遭分工國家衰退一致,也比較符合邏輯
BTW 質疑中國兩兆美金外匯到哪去的人微博帳號被封了,可能代表中國的帳真的有問題
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