VT/VWRD 美股 英股 稅 保障 - ETF

Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2019-10-08T14:00

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※ 引述《andy2255555 (風鈴)》之銘言:
: 非常感謝大大們的回應
: 一直認為VT不可能退稅 全球市場攪和在一起 變成撒尿牛丸了 怎麼分來源@@
: 如果VT能退稅 有點好奇怎麼分辨各市場來申請退稅
: 但是 但是!!!
: 從以前iceman0603大的文章 (推薦大家可以爬iceman大大的文看看)
: 以及最近再次發的文
: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Foreign_Inv/M.1562712239.A.24D.html: 還有從柏格頭論壇搜尋not effectively connected
: 找到這篇文章
: https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Nonresident_alien_taxation
: 當中文章有兩段文分別提到
: US withholding tax applies regardless of the actual assets held by a US
: domiciled ETF.[6] Even if all of the ETF's assets are non-US stocks, the US
: will still take 30% or lower treaty rate in dividend tax.
: This means that a US domiciled ETF containing non-US bonds or non-US stocks
: suffers the standard 30% or lower treaty rate US tax on dividends.
: 雖然這不是IRS正式回文
: 但柏格頭觀點看來
: 美國註冊ETF 即使是非美國市場 照樣要扣30%稅啊...

從boglehead文章的reference往上找到這篇文章

Foreign Investors in U.S. Mutual Funds: TheTrouble with Treaties

by Jeffrey M. ColonFordham University School of Law

裡面提到

In contrast to the favorable U.S.tax regime for foreign direct investment,
Subchapter M historically has been less hospitable to foreign investment.
Before 2004, Subchapter M recharacterized only a fund’s net capital ga
ins and tax-exempt interest when they were distributed. A fund distribution was
therwise treated as a U.S. source dividend even though it was economicall
y attributable to the fund's underlying foreign source interest,
dividends, or short-term capital gains. Consequently, a foreign investor in
a U.S. mutual fund often
faced a significantly higher U.S.tax burden than if the investor had earned
directly his or her share of the fund’s income.

To encourage foreign investment in U.S. mutual funds, Congress amended in 2004 s
ections 871(k) and 881(e)of the
Internal Revenue Code (Code)to exempt from tax mutual fund dividends paid to
foreign investors if the dividends are attributable to a fund's interest
income and short-term capital gains. The stated goal of the legislation was
to tax foreign mutual funds investors on the same basis as if they had directly
earned their share of the fund's underlying income.

The legislation, however, fails to fully implement this policy goal. In partic
ular,only U.S. source interest is reclassified; foreign source interest and
dividends are not reclassified, and when they are distributed to a foreign
shareholder, they are a taxable U.S.source dividend. Consequently, a
foreign investor that owns a global money market, bond, or stock fund will
be taxed on the fund’s foreign source income even though it would have been
exempt from U.S. tax had the foreign
investor directly earned the foreign source income.

如此來看,使用NEC退稅將VEA, VWO等配息列為foreign source income也是不
符規定的。 不知道我的理解有沒有錯誤?

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All Comments

Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2019-10-10T17:20
綠角好多年沒發退稅文,其他主題都有繼續發文
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2019-10-15T12:44
我看英文的理解也是跟原po一樣
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2019-10-17T04:39
結果申請的IRS都給退稅了?
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2019-10-18T03:33
申請後 IRS都給退稅 然後一直找文章說IRS表示不能退?
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2019-10-21T21:35
我知道很多人都有退成功。但相信仍有不少人在意退稅管
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2019-10-25T16:47
道是否合乎規定。僅就查到的資料和版友分享
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2019-10-26T01:21
不是都給退稅唷,也是不少被抓到且麻煩不少的,這些網路上
也有,可以多看看
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2019-10-27T00:51
我早已放棄退稅了
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2019-10-30T04:07
foreign source 爭議之前版上不是討論過了嗎
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2019-10-31T21:07
結論就是想退就去退 後果自負 目前還沒有出啥大事
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2019-11-05T05:32
同意本篇的理解
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2019-11-07T08:27
要說不符規定也很難說吧,10年前這些非美收入ft自動會退

電匯FT忘了寫匯款附言 竟然還匯進去

Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2019-10-08T11:17
各位前輩大家好 小弟從去年開始就用FT買美股ETF 前陣子FT發生資安疑慮後就一直盤算該怎麼辦 想過轉戶TD也想過乾脆用複委託 後來偷懶想想既然發生過問題了 以後應該會更注意補漏洞吧XD 於是上禮拜剛好美金定存到期就去銀行辦電匯 因為太久沒跑了(我都是一年一匯 親自跑銀行臨櫃辦) 填寫資料 ...

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Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2019-10-06T14:20
之前一直有再投資美股 但都是使用複委託 因為想說在一兩年就會出國 等到美國再開戶就好 現在到美國也開美國花旗銀行帳戶了 方便全球速匯 但是最近好像各種競爭 搞得不知道要開那個好 查一查 好像FT因為資安問題 已經被唾棄 其他好像都免手續費了 目前大概是IB 嘉信 TD再考慮吧 想知道開哪個券商 ...

VT/VWRD 美股 英股 稅 保障

Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2019-10-06T02:27
非常感謝大大們的回應 一直認為VT不可能退稅 全球市場攪和在一起 變成撒尿牛丸了 怎麼分來源atat 如果VT能退稅 有點好奇怎麼分辨各市場來申請退稅 但是 但是!!! 從以前iceman0603大的文章 (推薦大家可以爬iceman大大的文看看) 以及最近再次發的文 https://w ...

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Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2019-10-05T22:09
※ 引述《littlemummy (小木乃伊)》之銘言: : ※ 引述《andy2255555 (風鈴)》之銘言: : : 各位先進大家好 : : 近日在搜尋一些美股股利課稅30%的資訊 : : 找到了柏格頭的論壇網頁 : : https://reurl.cc/NaA72x : : 對於非美國投資人 幾乎都是 ...

VT/VWRD 美股 英股 稅 保障

Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2019-10-05T14:59
各位先進大家好 近日在搜尋一些美股股利課稅30%的資訊 找到了柏格頭的論壇網頁 https://reurl.cc/NaA72x 對於非美國投資人 幾乎都是討論購買愛爾蘭的ETF 如 VWRD, VWRA(不配息的VWRD) 或是 IWDA+EMIM 柏格頭的wiki也有詳盡 非美國人投資者 ...