life cycle investment vs 買房投資 - 理財
By Noah
at 2022-04-06T15:10
at 2022-04-06T15:10
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諾貝爾經濟學獎得主的獲利公式有提到用leaps call開槓桿,
好奇這種方式長期是否就可以勝過房貸開槓桿(外加使用3倍槓桿etf)?
1.例如現在買tsm 20240129,
strike price 70(delta=0.87),
大概就等於開2倍槓桿
(以股價102*100股來比較),
外加不斷sell call降leaps成本,
因為深度價內又是優質股,
到期應該很難變成價外
(除非真的遇到嚴重股災),
到期不論如何就買下來,
然後再循環一次,
保守的選spy leaps call,
也是至少選delta=0.7以上(時間選一年以上),
因為到期會買下,所以沒有歸零風險,不清楚還有什麼沒考慮到?
或有更好方法?
2.房版常說的買房後再用理財型房貸,
問題是現在房價通常就佔去2/3薪資,
就算只貸800萬以中位數薪資還是很吃力,要如何再貸理財房貸?
房價漲了可以貸沒錯,
但問題就是負擔會蠻大的,
(原本房貸外加利息)。
如果是自住應該也無法長期這樣開槓桿?
隔套其實也是門專業就不討論。
而且其實失去了頭期款的機會成本。
3.好公司大家都知道如tsm.aapl ,
接下來10年每年繼續買我也安心,
也認為還會有不錯的漲幅,
如果真的認為挑個股危險,
以vti 90%,spxl 10%外加leaps call,
年化要20%以上不是問題,
(印象房版算過有20%就不一定要買房,剛需生活品質不考慮)
3倍槓桿風險頂多下市,
但只放10%風險應該可控,
外加未來美國還是可以再QE。
例如以十年前買600萬房,頭期款120萬,
每年投12萬,
2011到2021會有1081萬,
https://i.imgur.com/DxnE9Ch.jpg
以過去10年桃園漲幅(雙北漲很多了用桃園比,以生活圈在北部的買自住)
一樣600萬房,10年過去也漲到快1千萬沒錯,但扣掉成本,
股票這樣開槓桿就勝過房子了(還沒加leap call),
https://i.imgur.com/lSqolMj.jpg
另外好地點的房子通常已經漲的很高,
如雙北漲幅其實很有限了,
還是未來10年可以再漲10倍(或桃園可以再10倍?)?
薪資不提高我想很難,
所以很多人才去中南部買,
問題選中南部又要挑到未來可能有不錯漲幅的,好奇一般人要如何辦的到?
https://i.imgur.com/WA3malv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ucdcyMN.jpg
但單純買指數我想很多人做的到
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好奇這種方式長期是否就可以勝過房貸開槓桿(外加使用3倍槓桿etf)?
1.例如現在買tsm 20240129,
strike price 70(delta=0.87),
大概就等於開2倍槓桿
(以股價102*100股來比較),
外加不斷sell call降leaps成本,
因為深度價內又是優質股,
到期應該很難變成價外
(除非真的遇到嚴重股災),
到期不論如何就買下來,
然後再循環一次,
保守的選spy leaps call,
也是至少選delta=0.7以上(時間選一年以上),
因為到期會買下,所以沒有歸零風險,不清楚還有什麼沒考慮到?
或有更好方法?
2.房版常說的買房後再用理財型房貸,
問題是現在房價通常就佔去2/3薪資,
就算只貸800萬以中位數薪資還是很吃力,要如何再貸理財房貸?
房價漲了可以貸沒錯,
但問題就是負擔會蠻大的,
(原本房貸外加利息)。
如果是自住應該也無法長期這樣開槓桿?
隔套其實也是門專業就不討論。
而且其實失去了頭期款的機會成本。
3.好公司大家都知道如tsm.aapl ,
接下來10年每年繼續買我也安心,
也認為還會有不錯的漲幅,
如果真的認為挑個股危險,
以vti 90%,spxl 10%外加leaps call,
年化要20%以上不是問題,
(印象房版算過有20%就不一定要買房,剛需生活品質不考慮)
3倍槓桿風險頂多下市,
但只放10%風險應該可控,
外加未來美國還是可以再QE。
例如以十年前買600萬房,頭期款120萬,
每年投12萬,
2011到2021會有1081萬,
https://i.imgur.com/DxnE9Ch.jpg
以過去10年桃園漲幅(雙北漲很多了用桃園比,以生活圈在北部的買自住)
一樣600萬房,10年過去也漲到快1千萬沒錯,但扣掉成本,
股票這樣開槓桿就勝過房子了(還沒加leap call),
https://i.imgur.com/lSqolMj.jpg
另外好地點的房子通常已經漲的很高,
如雙北漲幅其實很有限了,
還是未來10年可以再漲10倍(或桃園可以再10倍?)?
薪資不提高我想很難,
所以很多人才去中南部買,
問題選中南部又要挑到未來可能有不錯漲幅的,好奇一般人要如何辦的到?
https://i.imgur.com/WA3malv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ucdcyMN.jpg
但單純買指數我想很多人做的到
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