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感謝yuting大發人深省的文章,小弟藉此機會提出一點自己的看法,供大家玩味一下:
Position Sizing (PS)是交易中很重要的一門"技術"也是"藝術",要用它最大化獲
利,其難度其實和找出高"對"率的交易訊號不相上下.此外,有一點非常重要且簡單的概
念是,某人所使用的交易訊號,其單口的交易積效如果Profit Factor (PF) < 1的話,
那PS是毫無用武之地的.要找到PF>1的系統很難嗎?我的經驗是,它並不簡單.有無數的
系統都有一些參數,透過參數最佳化,系統回測,似忽很容易找到PF>1的系統,但是實際
上一真槍實彈上場,扣掉交易成本,還有面對變化快速的市場生態,系統很快就失靈(PF<1).
這就是為什麼我還是認為"對與錯"頗重要,絕不是"不"重要.除非您擁有一個長期在實
戰上PF>1的交易系統.
馬上應該有人會反駁,假如有一個系統平均單口實戰績效每筆獲利可以有100點,
每筆虧損可以有200點,此時PF=0.5,但是我們仍可以用PS,在獲利時夠擁有比虧損時多出
一倍以上的部位,那系統還是賺錢呀! 聽起來似乎有理,但這其實是個弔詭.因為這樣的
PS,已經不僅僅是一個純PS了,它其實也是一個很棒的交易訊號,它能夠讓你知道何時該
加大部位(表示事先能預測這筆賺的機率比賠大很多),反之它還能預知何時要開始虧了,
而縮小部位(既然知道要虧了,幹麻還出手?空手或反向不是更好).以下我就用yuting兄
所提出的一個例子說明我認為PS的難度所在:
※ 引述《yuting0103 (凌波微步)》之銘言:
: [部份原文省略]
:
: 2.
: 點進點出(有Position Sizing)
: 口數公式 P=(W/風險值) 這裡風險值以波動率來代替
: 波動率在6900時是 X
: 波動率到達 7500時已經上升到 2X
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
當今所有的"波動率"算法,全都是屬於"落後"型的演算法,也就是說,需要取得一定數量
的資料才能算出,那從6900漲到7500的過程中,等到我們發現波動率改變,是早已在行情
走了一段之後.除非能有一個正確率高的交易系統,我實在想不出如何能夠達成在這波段
盤中事先就聰明且有信心的用較多口數.
要找到一個PS可以事先就預測波動率的改變方向,那這個PS系統已經是一個不折不扣的聖
杯,和找到一個可以幫你預測明天要漲還是要跌的系統一樣難!國外還有專門以波動率為
標的物的期貨商品!
: 波段獲利是 2口x (500)
: 盤整被巴是 1口x (-100) x 4 (被巴四次)
: 獲利回吐率 400/1000 = 40%
:
: [部份原文省略]
:
: 對或錯 重要嗎??
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
因此,我還是認為"對或錯"頗重要.它是一個優質交易的"必要"(necessary)條件(單口PF>1)
,但不是充分(Sufficient)條件!如果加上好的PS,我想應該就充分了無誤!
: 決勝關鍵根本不在對或錯
: 被連巴有關係嗎??
: 重點在對的時候把口數放大, 錯的時候把損失降到最小
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
如果說要找到高"對"率的系統訊號很難,那我認為要真正做到這句話,在實行上是同等困難,
而且這兩個觀念本質上就是一體兩面!
--
Position Sizing (PS)是交易中很重要的一門"技術"也是"藝術",要用它最大化獲
利,其難度其實和找出高"對"率的交易訊號不相上下.此外,有一點非常重要且簡單的概
念是,某人所使用的交易訊號,其單口的交易積效如果Profit Factor (PF) < 1的話,
那PS是毫無用武之地的.要找到PF>1的系統很難嗎?我的經驗是,它並不簡單.有無數的
系統都有一些參數,透過參數最佳化,系統回測,似忽很容易找到PF>1的系統,但是實際
上一真槍實彈上場,扣掉交易成本,還有面對變化快速的市場生態,系統很快就失靈(PF<1).
這就是為什麼我還是認為"對與錯"頗重要,絕不是"不"重要.除非您擁有一個長期在實
戰上PF>1的交易系統.
馬上應該有人會反駁,假如有一個系統平均單口實戰績效每筆獲利可以有100點,
每筆虧損可以有200點,此時PF=0.5,但是我們仍可以用PS,在獲利時夠擁有比虧損時多出
一倍以上的部位,那系統還是賺錢呀! 聽起來似乎有理,但這其實是個弔詭.因為這樣的
PS,已經不僅僅是一個純PS了,它其實也是一個很棒的交易訊號,它能夠讓你知道何時該
加大部位(表示事先能預測這筆賺的機率比賠大很多),反之它還能預知何時要開始虧了,
而縮小部位(既然知道要虧了,幹麻還出手?空手或反向不是更好).以下我就用yuting兄
所提出的一個例子說明我認為PS的難度所在:
※ 引述《yuting0103 (凌波微步)》之銘言:
: [部份原文省略]
:
: 2.
: 點進點出(有Position Sizing)
: 口數公式 P=(W/風險值) 這裡風險值以波動率來代替
: 波動率在6900時是 X
: 波動率到達 7500時已經上升到 2X
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
當今所有的"波動率"算法,全都是屬於"落後"型的演算法,也就是說,需要取得一定數量
的資料才能算出,那從6900漲到7500的過程中,等到我們發現波動率改變,是早已在行情
走了一段之後.除非能有一個正確率高的交易系統,我實在想不出如何能夠達成在這波段
盤中事先就聰明且有信心的用較多口數.
要找到一個PS可以事先就預測波動率的改變方向,那這個PS系統已經是一個不折不扣的聖
杯,和找到一個可以幫你預測明天要漲還是要跌的系統一樣難!國外還有專門以波動率為
標的物的期貨商品!
: 波段獲利是 2口x (500)
: 盤整被巴是 1口x (-100) x 4 (被巴四次)
: 獲利回吐率 400/1000 = 40%
:
: [部份原文省略]
:
: 對或錯 重要嗎??
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
因此,我還是認為"對或錯"頗重要.它是一個優質交易的"必要"(necessary)條件(單口PF>1)
,但不是充分(Sufficient)條件!如果加上好的PS,我想應該就充分了無誤!
: 決勝關鍵根本不在對或錯
: 被連巴有關係嗎??
: 重點在對的時候把口數放大, 錯的時候把損失降到最小
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
如果說要找到高"對"率的系統訊號很難,那我認為要真正做到這句話,在實行上是同等困難,
而且這兩個觀念本質上就是一體兩面!
--
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