近期操作感想 - 期貨

By Olive
at 2010-02-05T20:53
at 2010-02-05T20:53
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※ 引述《huntersa (Negative)》之銘言:
不好意思,我沒接觸過期指也不太清楚什麼是程式交易,想問幾個問題。
請求好心人解惑,不勝感激。
: 1.錯誤的進場方式
: 沒有思考過的進場, 衝動的進場, 頻繁的進場, 凹單攤平的進場,
: 除了產生過多手續費之外, 也會產生第二種情況
這位板友我看過推文,好像是依訊號進出,是嗎?
既然是依程試交易為何有衝動、頻繁、凹單等字樣。
我的意思是既然策略是頻繁進出的設計,那這算是一種錯誤嗎?
: 2.過於頻繁的停損
: 假設你能容忍一次最多20點的單停損, 只要做錯個幾次,
: 小賠都變成大賠.
這個我也不懂,我想問的是這是錯誤嗎?依據程式停損不是策略的一部分嗎?
人家跟我說是小賠、小賠、小賠、小賠,然後大賺搞定。
既然是這樣為何要反省,這不是執行程式交易的過程嗎?
: 3.過於依賴同樣的指標
: 之前做單大部分使用1分K下去跑, 可是問題來了,
: 1分K區間過短, 期貨有時騙線很多, 1分K尤甚.
: 前幾天事後檢討, 再以15K, 30K去看,
: 我發覺自己的進出點位已經完全沒有章法.
這個又更奇怪了,不是依訊號進出嗎?請問這是什麼原因,訊號鈍化?
: 4.停利的迷思
: 接觸了程式交易後, 剛開始去玩, 無論如何都想要把程式最佳化,
: 抓到每段波段的高低點.
: 但自己寫的程式跑了幾天下來, 總是該賺的沒賺, 反而最後是停損出場.
: 而加上了停利限制後卻發現, 獲利的機會比想要最佳化來的更好.
看不懂。請問是指程式沒有出場機制嗎?
就是有進場訊號,沒有出場訊號的狀況嗎?
: 5.被外在看法過多干擾
: 舉個例來說, 今天午盤過後許多人發表看法覺得今天收最低.
: 在13:00時, 我相信很多人有這種想法.
: 三人成虎, 愈多人講同樣的話時愈害怕,
: 所以做多的想停損, 做空的想追空,
: 卻沒想到後面來的玉山昇龍拳灌暴兩方人馬.
: 雜訊太多, 想法就會亂; 一亂, 做法就跟著亂.
: 做法亂, 錢就在戰亂中消失.
看不懂。
: 6.心境跟功夫沒到, 揣摩高手會讓你吃虧
: 有幾句話板眾應該滿熟悉的:
: "看對就下重倉"
: "你不是為了賠錢才來這個市場"
: ...
: ...
: ..
: "小心45分的大戶賣壓"
: 對於資金較小且功夫不夠, 像我這種慘戶,
: 我也下過重倉, 但下場是沒耐心+看錯, 然後賠一屁股
: 我不是為了賠錢才來這個市場, 但是至少要以不賠錢為前提.
: 即使損益兩平, 至少我多了經驗, 這個市場80%的人在賠錢,
: 那至少嬴了80%的人.
: 高手最後能講出這些話, 一定有他的歷程,
: 但既然知道自己的斤兩, 必須做好最適合自己的策略.
: 至於最後的45分大戶賣壓, 不要問, 很可怕.
: @@ 我是個新手慘戶, 提供這些心得跟大家分享.
如果是我的話,大概只會用最低限度的錢去培養經驗吧。賠光也無所謂那種。
下重倉期望值才高,但這是風險中立的狀況,因為他們系統已經驗證過能獲勝了。
請容許我以外行人的眼光來看,其實這些都不是問題,
問題應該是這套程式贏不了或是沒驗證(實地模擬)過就下場了。
為了保本先做模擬空氣單比較好,能先穩定獲利幾個月再下場。(非回測)
--
不好意思,我沒接觸過期指也不太清楚什麼是程式交易,想問幾個問題。
請求好心人解惑,不勝感激。
: 1.錯誤的進場方式
: 沒有思考過的進場, 衝動的進場, 頻繁的進場, 凹單攤平的進場,
: 除了產生過多手續費之外, 也會產生第二種情況
這位板友我看過推文,好像是依訊號進出,是嗎?
既然是依程試交易為何有衝動、頻繁、凹單等字樣。
我的意思是既然策略是頻繁進出的設計,那這算是一種錯誤嗎?
: 2.過於頻繁的停損
: 假設你能容忍一次最多20點的單停損, 只要做錯個幾次,
: 小賠都變成大賠.
這個我也不懂,我想問的是這是錯誤嗎?依據程式停損不是策略的一部分嗎?
人家跟我說是小賠、小賠、小賠、小賠,然後大賺搞定。
既然是這樣為何要反省,這不是執行程式交易的過程嗎?
: 3.過於依賴同樣的指標
: 之前做單大部分使用1分K下去跑, 可是問題來了,
: 1分K區間過短, 期貨有時騙線很多, 1分K尤甚.
: 前幾天事後檢討, 再以15K, 30K去看,
: 我發覺自己的進出點位已經完全沒有章法.
這個又更奇怪了,不是依訊號進出嗎?請問這是什麼原因,訊號鈍化?
: 4.停利的迷思
: 接觸了程式交易後, 剛開始去玩, 無論如何都想要把程式最佳化,
: 抓到每段波段的高低點.
: 但自己寫的程式跑了幾天下來, 總是該賺的沒賺, 反而最後是停損出場.
: 而加上了停利限制後卻發現, 獲利的機會比想要最佳化來的更好.
看不懂。請問是指程式沒有出場機制嗎?
就是有進場訊號,沒有出場訊號的狀況嗎?
: 5.被外在看法過多干擾
: 舉個例來說, 今天午盤過後許多人發表看法覺得今天收最低.
: 在13:00時, 我相信很多人有這種想法.
: 三人成虎, 愈多人講同樣的話時愈害怕,
: 所以做多的想停損, 做空的想追空,
: 卻沒想到後面來的玉山昇龍拳灌暴兩方人馬.
: 雜訊太多, 想法就會亂; 一亂, 做法就跟著亂.
: 做法亂, 錢就在戰亂中消失.
看不懂。
: 6.心境跟功夫沒到, 揣摩高手會讓你吃虧
: 有幾句話板眾應該滿熟悉的:
: "看對就下重倉"
: "你不是為了賠錢才來這個市場"
: ...
: ...
: ..
: "小心45分的大戶賣壓"
: 對於資金較小且功夫不夠, 像我這種慘戶,
: 我也下過重倉, 但下場是沒耐心+看錯, 然後賠一屁股
: 我不是為了賠錢才來這個市場, 但是至少要以不賠錢為前提.
: 即使損益兩平, 至少我多了經驗, 這個市場80%的人在賠錢,
: 那至少嬴了80%的人.
: 高手最後能講出這些話, 一定有他的歷程,
: 但既然知道自己的斤兩, 必須做好最適合自己的策略.
: 至於最後的45分大戶賣壓, 不要問, 很可怕.
: @@ 我是個新手慘戶, 提供這些心得跟大家分享.
如果是我的話,大概只會用最低限度的錢去培養經驗吧。賠光也無所謂那種。
下重倉期望值才高,但這是風險中立的狀況,因為他們系統已經驗證過能獲勝了。
請容許我以外行人的眼光來看,其實這些都不是問題,
問題應該是這套程式贏不了或是沒驗證(實地模擬)過就下場了。
為了保本先做模擬空氣單比較好,能先穩定獲利幾個月再下場。(非回測)
--
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