請問這樣有無違反證交法? - 股票
By Madame
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第一次在股版發文,如果有錯誤的地方再麻煩各位糾正謝謝
先聲明:本人沒有因為這個事件賠錢,只是路見不平,不要酸我QQ
事情經過:
前陣子有位長輩說他在同*會入了一個line群組
照著群組推薦的標的跟操作手法下去買賣
但是他常常小賺大賠,群主發的對帳單獲利卻都5%起跳
他很困惑的來問我怎麼這樣,是不是他太爛之類的
當初他跟我提到這個群組的時候
我就有告誡他,好康人家自己賺就好,跟你講幹嘛
(只會跟單真的爛)
OK 接下來是我的觀察
這位群主會在每日盤後發今天損益的對帳單(都是+上萬起跳)
但股名、類別、股數、金額全部都會遮掉(只留買進總額+賣出總額+損益報酬率)
並說想賺錢追蹤留言,很多人都留line等入群
入群後記事本有紀錄操作手法
就是要大家盤前以漲停價購入並找時機作當沖(他們稱開盤沖)
然後設定停損0.5~1%停利1%~2%(這個%數跟他自己發的對帳單對不起來)
我觀察了幾天他推薦的標的,大部分都是前一天漲5%甚至鎖漲停的股票
大概70%股票都開高走低,確實有獲利的機會,但肉很少而且風險很大
很多群友只要晚幾分鐘賣就套牢了
當然 群主沒收費 群友自己選擇用這種手法無腦跟單是他們的問題
但接下來是講群主的問題
假設這位群主在5/8盤後發標的文,明日5/9做多A股票
然後群內的小幫手就會開始宣導,叫大家明日5/9盤前掛漲停買進A股票
在討論區質疑群主的時候,他卻說這些標的只是個人買賣紀錄,大家不要跟單
但是群組內小幫手卻一直鼓吹大家跟隨他的腳步(???)
然後5/9盤後發的對帳單,損益又是3.4%以上(甚至5%~9%)
但群友有的賺1%~2%已經很厲害了,更多的是套牢哀哀叫的
我看了好幾檔,以他鼓吹的手法開盤沖來說
就算你抄最底,賣最高都無法到達他對帳單的投資報酬率
更不用說有的開高走路一路殺到最低
他居然還能毫髮無傷,對帳單全部正損益又入袋好幾萬
於是我開始研究他的對帳單,以買入5張來說
他買進的價格都是發標的文當天5/8盤中價格
等於他5/8盤中購入股票,5/8盤後推薦標的並鼓吹群內韭菜5/9盤前掛漲停買
5/9開盤時他就倒貨給群組的韭菜,然後又拿著對帳單招收更多粉絲
殊不知他賺的錢都是粉絲套牢的錢
當然也有人發現不對勁而在群組或討論區質疑他
就會有幾個人出來幫忙說話,說酸民喇、盈虧自負
然後被封鎖或踢出群組,我猜應該是同夥的樁腳
因為討論區有其他帳號,連續好幾天的標的跟這位群主一模一樣
操作手法也是主張盤前漲停買,但那個人的對帳單確實是盤前漲停買
有時候甚至比這位群主更早發標的,推論應該是同夥
聽說招收粉絲入群也會分好幾個群組來分散風險
不得不說 有些腦粉真的被洗腦的很嚴重
給他們事實了也看不清
我認為今天的重點不是他有沒有收費,有沒有逼你買這支股票
而是現在很多股市新手甚麼都不懂(那個群組很多人問很基本的問題)
看到你對帳單這麼厲害,以為遇到一個可以追隨的人
他卻以隔日沖倒貨給群友的心態在獲利
4月份對帳單+118萬 如果再加上其他樁腳小幫手
獲利金額也不少,而且似乎這樣操作一段時間了
這樣跟新聞最近報導的群組坑殺散戶是否有異曲同工之妙?
是否有違反證交法呢?
問過刑大的朋友,他說他們管不了,要我找金管會
目前已蒐集證據,但假日金管會休假,先上來問看看,明天會致電過去
討論區 台股高X玩家(群主帳號) 天天X(發同標的的帳號,事發後已刪光文章)
中科馬XX(line群聯絡人) 你們跑不掉的
謝謝大家
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問題
--
先聲明:本人沒有因為這個事件賠錢,只是路見不平,不要酸我QQ
事情經過:
前陣子有位長輩說他在同*會入了一個line群組
照著群組推薦的標的跟操作手法下去買賣
但是他常常小賺大賠,群主發的對帳單獲利卻都5%起跳
他很困惑的來問我怎麼這樣,是不是他太爛之類的
當初他跟我提到這個群組的時候
我就有告誡他,好康人家自己賺就好,跟你講幹嘛
(只會跟單真的爛)
OK 接下來是我的觀察
這位群主會在每日盤後發今天損益的對帳單(都是+上萬起跳)
但股名、類別、股數、金額全部都會遮掉(只留買進總額+賣出總額+損益報酬率)
並說想賺錢追蹤留言,很多人都留line等入群
入群後記事本有紀錄操作手法
就是要大家盤前以漲停價購入並找時機作當沖(他們稱開盤沖)
然後設定停損0.5~1%停利1%~2%(這個%數跟他自己發的對帳單對不起來)
我觀察了幾天他推薦的標的,大部分都是前一天漲5%甚至鎖漲停的股票
大概70%股票都開高走低,確實有獲利的機會,但肉很少而且風險很大
很多群友只要晚幾分鐘賣就套牢了
當然 群主沒收費 群友自己選擇用這種手法無腦跟單是他們的問題
但接下來是講群主的問題
假設這位群主在5/8盤後發標的文,明日5/9做多A股票
然後群內的小幫手就會開始宣導,叫大家明日5/9盤前掛漲停買進A股票
在討論區質疑群主的時候,他卻說這些標的只是個人買賣紀錄,大家不要跟單
但是群組內小幫手卻一直鼓吹大家跟隨他的腳步(???)
然後5/9盤後發的對帳單,損益又是3.4%以上(甚至5%~9%)
但群友有的賺1%~2%已經很厲害了,更多的是套牢哀哀叫的
我看了好幾檔,以他鼓吹的手法開盤沖來說
就算你抄最底,賣最高都無法到達他對帳單的投資報酬率
更不用說有的開高走路一路殺到最低
他居然還能毫髮無傷,對帳單全部正損益又入袋好幾萬
於是我開始研究他的對帳單,以買入5張來說
他買進的價格都是發標的文當天5/8盤中價格
等於他5/8盤中購入股票,5/8盤後推薦標的並鼓吹群內韭菜5/9盤前掛漲停買
5/9開盤時他就倒貨給群組的韭菜,然後又拿著對帳單招收更多粉絲
殊不知他賺的錢都是粉絲套牢的錢
當然也有人發現不對勁而在群組或討論區質疑他
就會有幾個人出來幫忙說話,說酸民喇、盈虧自負
然後被封鎖或踢出群組,我猜應該是同夥的樁腳
因為討論區有其他帳號,連續好幾天的標的跟這位群主一模一樣
操作手法也是主張盤前漲停買,但那個人的對帳單確實是盤前漲停買
有時候甚至比這位群主更早發標的,推論應該是同夥
聽說招收粉絲入群也會分好幾個群組來分散風險
不得不說 有些腦粉真的被洗腦的很嚴重
給他們事實了也看不清
我認為今天的重點不是他有沒有收費,有沒有逼你買這支股票
而是現在很多股市新手甚麼都不懂(那個群組很多人問很基本的問題)
看到你對帳單這麼厲害,以為遇到一個可以追隨的人
他卻以隔日沖倒貨給群友的心態在獲利
4月份對帳單+118萬 如果再加上其他樁腳小幫手
獲利金額也不少,而且似乎這樣操作一段時間了
這樣跟新聞最近報導的群組坑殺散戶是否有異曲同工之妙?
是否有違反證交法呢?
問過刑大的朋友,他說他們管不了,要我找金管會
目前已蒐集證據,但假日金管會休假,先上來問看看,明天會致電過去
討論區 台股高X玩家(群主帳號) 天天X(發同標的的帳號,事發後已刪光文章)
中科馬XX(line群聯絡人) 你們跑不掉的
謝謝大家
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
發文前請先詳閱[請益]分類發文規範,未依規範發文將受處份。
根據板規1-4-2.請益可提及標的,但是只要屬以下如:
1.問漲跌,或持股分析。 2.預測個股或產業未來性。 3.或有推薦意圖。
請使用 [標的] 分類並依正確格式發文,違者1-4-2砍文處分。
------------------------ 以上注意事項得刪除 違者4-1 ---------------------
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