血飲:中國拒絕購買美債,貿然降息QE死更快 - 股票

By Madame
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Table of Contents
※ 引述《kuarcis ()》之銘言:
: https://reurl.cc/zLm6Q
: 上面的連結是FOMC的 forward guidance
: guidance有三類指標
: 1.就業率
: 2.PCE
: 3.real gdp growth
政府要玩弄統計學和會計造假還不簡單?
美國自06年來經濟增長只有20%左右
但政府債務卻擴張了二十倍
美股指數更擴張了四倍
明眼人都知道美國連利息都還不起更甭提本金了
那什麼東西造假不了呢?
比如說進出口數據
雙方核對一下
貿易順差逆差向來是國與國之間吵架的帳本
正常來說不會有一國會刻意去美化他國數據
: 然後還有一個政策目標是通膨要到2%
: 而且這篇作者很顯然不懂的是
: 利率工具不是只有升降息或QE而已
: FOMC 每次開會的結果,本身就是利率工具
: 市場根據FOMC釋出的消息做決策,是有可能會影響guidance表現的
: 另一個原PO可能不懂的點是
: FOMC會採取行動的時間點,並不是政策目標未達標
: 而是guidance不如預期或超出預期
: 不然其實通膨會自己往上漲(理論上啦)到目標
: 簡單的說,市場上反應的根本就只是揣測,原PO轉發的文章就是最好的案例
: 什麼殖利率倒掛啊,跟QE還是降息的關係根本就太遠
: 第三個作者可能不懂的點是
: 歷史上美債出現殖利率倒掛後,就算真的出現經濟衰退
: 也大概是半年到1~2年之後,
: 這種時間上的距離,真的可以把殖利率倒掛當指標嗎
: 而且用3m-10y還是這一兩年才出現的指標
: 更早以前是用2y-10y當作有沒有倒掛的指標
: 簡單的說,現在突然跳出來喊衰退的,本來就看經濟會衰退
: 只是在找指標證明自己說的話是對的
: 雖然我很想說沒讀書不要學別人討論總經
: 但是這題的確比較難
: 只能說,希望大家拿一些話術出來說嘴之前,先搞清楚到底自己在講什麼
債市是法人市場
交易主力是各國央行
因為各國央行都有穩定財政和通膨的目標所以會傾向於避險
而且政府會比民間法人有更多資訊管道和工具提前判斷未來景氣
歐洲從去年就開始淨賣出美債了
俄羅斯都快清空所有美債了
印度日本也會時不時賣一下
當然對美債價格最具有決定性影響力的還是中國
各國還紛紛運回存放在美國的全部黃金儲備表示不信任美國
美國也不敢擋,不敢賴帳
怕各國央行紛紛擠兌
美國和美元的公信力就破產了
你好像搬出了一大堆東西
其實什麼也沒講
重點就只有兩個:
1美國政府頒布的數據顯示美國經濟良好 (笑
2倒掛能代表什麼嗎?
--
: https://reurl.cc/zLm6Q
: 上面的連結是FOMC的 forward guidance
: guidance有三類指標
: 1.就業率
: 2.PCE
: 3.real gdp growth
政府要玩弄統計學和會計造假還不簡單?
美國自06年來經濟增長只有20%左右
但政府債務卻擴張了二十倍
美股指數更擴張了四倍
明眼人都知道美國連利息都還不起更甭提本金了
那什麼東西造假不了呢?
比如說進出口數據
雙方核對一下
貿易順差逆差向來是國與國之間吵架的帳本
正常來說不會有一國會刻意去美化他國數據
: 然後還有一個政策目標是通膨要到2%
: 而且這篇作者很顯然不懂的是
: 利率工具不是只有升降息或QE而已
: FOMC 每次開會的結果,本身就是利率工具
: 市場根據FOMC釋出的消息做決策,是有可能會影響guidance表現的
: 另一個原PO可能不懂的點是
: FOMC會採取行動的時間點,並不是政策目標未達標
: 而是guidance不如預期或超出預期
: 不然其實通膨會自己往上漲(理論上啦)到目標
: 簡單的說,市場上反應的根本就只是揣測,原PO轉發的文章就是最好的案例
: 什麼殖利率倒掛啊,跟QE還是降息的關係根本就太遠
: 第三個作者可能不懂的點是
: 歷史上美債出現殖利率倒掛後,就算真的出現經濟衰退
: 也大概是半年到1~2年之後,
: 這種時間上的距離,真的可以把殖利率倒掛當指標嗎
: 而且用3m-10y還是這一兩年才出現的指標
: 更早以前是用2y-10y當作有沒有倒掛的指標
: 簡單的說,現在突然跳出來喊衰退的,本來就看經濟會衰退
: 只是在找指標證明自己說的話是對的
: 雖然我很想說沒讀書不要學別人討論總經
: 但是這題的確比較難
: 只能說,希望大家拿一些話術出來說嘴之前,先搞清楚到底自己在講什麼
債市是法人市場
交易主力是各國央行
因為各國央行都有穩定財政和通膨的目標所以會傾向於避險
而且政府會比民間法人有更多資訊管道和工具提前判斷未來景氣
歐洲從去年就開始淨賣出美債了
俄羅斯都快清空所有美債了
印度日本也會時不時賣一下
當然對美債價格最具有決定性影響力的還是中國
各國還紛紛運回存放在美國的全部黃金儲備表示不信任美國
美國也不敢擋,不敢賴帳
怕各國央行紛紛擠兌
美國和美元的公信力就破產了
你好像搬出了一大堆東西
其實什麼也沒講
重點就只有兩個:
1美國政府頒布的數據顯示美國經濟良好 (笑
2倒掛能代表什麼嗎?
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