綠角是不是過譽了 - 股票
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-03-16T23:14
at 2020-03-16T23:14
Table of Contents
※ 引述《jakelinlien (jake)》之銘言:
: 各位股版的股神們晚上好
: 美股今天再次熔斷
: 算起來從高點也跌掉快百分之三十了
: 按照綠角派理念
: 此時更應該持續定期定額投資美股ETF
: 因為二十年三十年後
: 大盤一定會漲回來
: 但是想想這個跌幅
: 這筆錢等於五年至十年內都是套牢的
: 如果跟2%的儲蓄險比較
: 也許還要等到十五年才能追上
: 現在儲蓄險多半六到七年就可以贖回
: 而且還幾乎沒什麼風險
: 想請問這樣綠角投資法真的划得來嗎
: 綠角是不是其實只是剛好前十年趕上美股史上最大多頭
: 其實這種無腦投資法終究是會付出代價的吧
: 各位綠角粉仍然有信心要持續加碼嗎
這篇文,代表你根本不懂綠角的「指數化投資+資產配置」
指數化投資是建立在兩個假設
1.短期股票無法預測
2.長期全世界經濟向上發展
所以指數化投資的標的不是投資美股,
而是分散在全世界的低成本被動式基金或ETF
很多人誤會綠角只會投資美股
只是因為美國股票市場成熟,所以綠角建議,開美國劵商,才容易找到適合的標的
當然也不能否認美股占比極大,所以指數化投資人,這波一定也會受損
這時就要提到第二點
一般來說,指數化投資人是定期定額投資的(因為一般人的收入也是定期定額入賬)
所以現在指數跌20%,不代表指數化投資人損失20%
很可能是因為投資時間長遠,之前買的股價還低於現在的崩盤價
整體的報酬率都還是正的
第三點是,綠角的指數化投資,還要搭配資產配置
一般來說是股債以一定比例配置
年紀越大或是近期越需要用錢,債要配越多
因為股票報酬率大,但是風險也大
債劵報酬率很廢,但是相對穩定
因此在崩盤狀態下,指數化投資人透過資產配置,能更進一步減少損失
甚至透過股債再平衡,自動達到買低賣高的功效
基於以上幾點,
在這種崩盤狀況下,指數化投資人當然還會繼續買
因為指數化投資人看到的是未來市場還會繼續成長
現在有機會便宜買入,怎麼可能不買!
(附帶一提,所以之前有某位大師說ETF被動式投資會造成海嘯,根本唬爛)
最後,一堆人說綠角根本是搭上這10年來的大多頭才會竄紅
很遺憾的是,綠角當年正好是從2008年的金融海嘯前開始投入
所以當他當時算是摔最重的那批,而他當時就一直強調資產配置的重要
這些都能從綠角的部落格找到當年的資料
(這就能發現散戶整天當肥料的原因,連google查一下資料都不會!)
p.s
主動投資人,當然是可以否定一開始的假設,認為短期股票是可以預測的
那我這邊推薦一個很厲害的投資長,他預測3月攻克武漢缺口,還簽名負責
僅供參考,到時虧錢別怪我
--
: 各位股版的股神們晚上好
: 美股今天再次熔斷
: 算起來從高點也跌掉快百分之三十了
: 按照綠角派理念
: 此時更應該持續定期定額投資美股ETF
: 因為二十年三十年後
: 大盤一定會漲回來
: 但是想想這個跌幅
: 這筆錢等於五年至十年內都是套牢的
: 如果跟2%的儲蓄險比較
: 也許還要等到十五年才能追上
: 現在儲蓄險多半六到七年就可以贖回
: 而且還幾乎沒什麼風險
: 想請問這樣綠角投資法真的划得來嗎
: 綠角是不是其實只是剛好前十年趕上美股史上最大多頭
: 其實這種無腦投資法終究是會付出代價的吧
: 各位綠角粉仍然有信心要持續加碼嗎
這篇文,代表你根本不懂綠角的「指數化投資+資產配置」
指數化投資是建立在兩個假設
1.短期股票無法預測
2.長期全世界經濟向上發展
所以指數化投資的標的不是投資美股,
而是分散在全世界的低成本被動式基金或ETF
很多人誤會綠角只會投資美股
只是因為美國股票市場成熟,所以綠角建議,開美國劵商,才容易找到適合的標的
當然也不能否認美股占比極大,所以指數化投資人,這波一定也會受損
這時就要提到第二點
一般來說,指數化投資人是定期定額投資的(因為一般人的收入也是定期定額入賬)
所以現在指數跌20%,不代表指數化投資人損失20%
很可能是因為投資時間長遠,之前買的股價還低於現在的崩盤價
整體的報酬率都還是正的
第三點是,綠角的指數化投資,還要搭配資產配置
一般來說是股債以一定比例配置
年紀越大或是近期越需要用錢,債要配越多
因為股票報酬率大,但是風險也大
債劵報酬率很廢,但是相對穩定
因此在崩盤狀態下,指數化投資人透過資產配置,能更進一步減少損失
甚至透過股債再平衡,自動達到買低賣高的功效
基於以上幾點,
在這種崩盤狀況下,指數化投資人當然還會繼續買
因為指數化投資人看到的是未來市場還會繼續成長
現在有機會便宜買入,怎麼可能不買!
(附帶一提,所以之前有某位大師說ETF被動式投資會造成海嘯,根本唬爛)
最後,一堆人說綠角根本是搭上這10年來的大多頭才會竄紅
很遺憾的是,綠角當年正好是從2008年的金融海嘯前開始投入
所以當他當時算是摔最重的那批,而他當時就一直強調資產配置的重要
這些都能從綠角的部落格找到當年的資料
(這就能發現散戶整天當肥料的原因,連google查一下資料都不會!)
p.s
主動投資人,當然是可以否定一開始的假設,認為短期股票是可以預測的
那我這邊推薦一個很厲害的投資長,他預測3月攻克武漢缺口,還簽名負責
僅供參考,到時虧錢別怪我
--
Tags:
股票
All Comments
By Madame
at 2020-03-17T22:02
at 2020-03-17T22:02
By Sarah
at 2020-03-21T23:18
at 2020-03-21T23:18
By Selena
at 2020-03-22T10:17
at 2020-03-22T10:17
By Frederic
at 2020-03-23T17:51
at 2020-03-23T17:51
By Daniel
at 2020-03-25T08:11
at 2020-03-25T08:11
By Cara
at 2020-03-29T12:09
at 2020-03-29T12:09
By Steve
at 2020-04-01T18:08
at 2020-04-01T18:08
By Catherine
at 2020-04-02T09:40
at 2020-04-02T09:40
By Leila
at 2020-04-04T15:18
at 2020-04-04T15:18
By Lily
at 2020-04-05T12:06
at 2020-04-05T12:06
By Victoria
at 2020-04-06T20:00
at 2020-04-06T20:00
By Mia
at 2020-04-10T18:09
at 2020-04-10T18:09
By Noah
at 2020-04-11T00:16
at 2020-04-11T00:16
By Andrew
at 2020-04-15T02:40
at 2020-04-15T02:40
By Thomas
at 2020-04-17T05:02
at 2020-04-17T05:02
By Zenobia
at 2020-04-17T23:36
at 2020-04-17T23:36
By Isla
at 2020-04-19T22:28
at 2020-04-19T22:28
By Harry
at 2020-04-21T17:55
at 2020-04-21T17:55
By Suhail Hany
at 2020-04-25T13:00
at 2020-04-25T13:00
By Ida
at 2020-04-29T16:40
at 2020-04-29T16:40
By Daniel
at 2020-05-02T02:20
at 2020-05-02T02:20
By Daniel
at 2020-05-05T11:46
at 2020-05-05T11:46
By William
at 2020-05-07T08:31
at 2020-05-07T08:31
By Ingrid
at 2020-05-07T12:40
at 2020-05-07T12:40
By Jack
at 2020-05-10T19:11
at 2020-05-10T19:11
By Bennie
at 2020-05-14T10:29
at 2020-05-14T10:29
By Charlie
at 2020-05-18T15:04
at 2020-05-18T15:04
By Olive
at 2020-05-21T02:25
at 2020-05-21T02:25
By Kumar
at 2020-05-24T20:42
at 2020-05-24T20:42
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-05-25T09:40
at 2020-05-25T09:40
By Lauren
at 2020-05-29T12:04
at 2020-05-29T12:04
By Carol
at 2020-06-02T19:39
at 2020-06-02T19:39
By Connor
at 2020-06-07T01:23
at 2020-06-07T01:23
By Sandy
at 2020-06-11T12:55
at 2020-06-11T12:55
By Zenobia
at 2020-06-16T05:13
at 2020-06-16T05:13
By Susan
at 2020-06-19T19:33
at 2020-06-19T19:33
By Belly
at 2020-06-24T18:47
at 2020-06-24T18:47
By David
at 2020-06-27T15:59
at 2020-06-27T15:59
By Queena
at 2020-07-01T01:12
at 2020-07-01T01:12
By Necoo
at 2020-07-03T19:56
at 2020-07-03T19:56
By Lauren
at 2020-07-05T08:19
at 2020-07-05T08:19
By Xanthe
at 2020-07-09T05:19
at 2020-07-09T05:19
By David
at 2020-07-12T16:08
at 2020-07-12T16:08
By Sierra Rose
at 2020-07-15T15:48
at 2020-07-15T15:48
By Ingrid
at 2020-07-17T21:47
at 2020-07-17T21:47
By Rosalind
at 2020-07-20T14:10
at 2020-07-20T14:10
By Carol
at 2020-07-22T15:52
at 2020-07-22T15:52
By Vanessa
at 2020-07-24T06:01
at 2020-07-24T06:01
By William
at 2020-07-27T15:22
at 2020-07-27T15:22
By Rosalind
at 2020-07-29T16:21
at 2020-07-29T16:21
By George
at 2020-08-01T04:28
at 2020-08-01T04:28
By Kelly
at 2020-08-05T12:33
at 2020-08-05T12:33
By Rosalind
at 2020-08-06T06:41
at 2020-08-06T06:41
By William
at 2020-08-10T20:39
at 2020-08-10T20:39
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-08-11T18:34
at 2020-08-11T18:34
By Harry
at 2020-08-14T05:30
at 2020-08-14T05:30
By Rae
at 2020-08-19T00:59
at 2020-08-19T00:59
By Dorothy
at 2020-08-19T11:56
at 2020-08-19T11:56
By Xanthe
at 2020-08-23T14:33
at 2020-08-23T14:33
By Jacky
at 2020-08-26T19:21
at 2020-08-26T19:21
By Quanna
at 2020-08-29T08:03
at 2020-08-29T08:03
By Margaret
at 2020-09-02T12:13
at 2020-09-02T12:13
By Susan
at 2020-09-02T22:42
at 2020-09-02T22:42
By Rebecca
at 2020-09-06T03:44
at 2020-09-06T03:44
By Lucy
at 2020-09-09T10:32
at 2020-09-09T10:32
By Connor
at 2020-09-11T06:16
at 2020-09-11T06:16
By Mia
at 2020-09-13T17:55
at 2020-09-13T17:55
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-09-13T22:48
at 2020-09-13T22:48
By Jacob
at 2020-09-18T03:52
at 2020-09-18T03:52
By John
at 2020-09-18T07:09
at 2020-09-18T07:09
By Daniel
at 2020-09-21T17:45
at 2020-09-21T17:45
By Leila
at 2020-09-22T14:19
at 2020-09-22T14:19
By Ingrid
at 2020-09-27T09:02
at 2020-09-27T09:02
By Genevieve
at 2020-09-28T09:18
at 2020-09-28T09:18
By Frederic
at 2020-09-29T10:29
at 2020-09-29T10:29
By John
at 2020-10-01T20:26
at 2020-10-01T20:26
By Daniel
at 2020-10-04T06:27
at 2020-10-04T06:27
By Ina
at 2020-10-08T21:59
at 2020-10-08T21:59
By Victoria
at 2020-10-11T08:51
at 2020-10-11T08:51
By Caroline
at 2020-10-13T18:02
at 2020-10-13T18:02
By Carol
at 2020-10-18T10:30
at 2020-10-18T10:30
By Eden
at 2020-10-22T22:40
at 2020-10-22T22:40
By Thomas
at 2020-10-24T21:39
at 2020-10-24T21:39
By Erin
at 2020-10-25T03:48
at 2020-10-25T03:48
By Necoo
at 2020-10-28T23:56
at 2020-10-28T23:56
By Xanthe
at 2020-10-29T15:53
at 2020-10-29T15:53
By Caitlin
at 2020-11-01T15:29
at 2020-11-01T15:29
By Megan
at 2020-11-05T18:46
at 2020-11-05T18:46
By Brianna
at 2020-11-05T23:38
at 2020-11-05T23:38
By Una
at 2020-11-10T00:22
at 2020-11-10T00:22
By Gary
at 2020-11-13T02:17
at 2020-11-13T02:17
By Vanessa
at 2020-11-17T10:18
at 2020-11-17T10:18
By Victoria
at 2020-11-19T02:47
at 2020-11-19T02:47
By Zanna
at 2020-11-22T14:00
at 2020-11-22T14:00
By Jack
at 2020-11-24T07:16
at 2020-11-24T07:16
By Emily
at 2020-11-27T12:23
at 2020-11-27T12:23
By Cara
at 2020-11-30T15:24
at 2020-11-30T15:24
By Frederic
at 2020-11-30T16:37
at 2020-11-30T16:37
By Una
at 2020-12-01T16:39
at 2020-12-01T16:39
By Mia
at 2020-12-02T12:44
at 2020-12-02T12:44
By Zora
at 2020-12-04T13:21
at 2020-12-04T13:21
By Tracy
at 2020-12-06T01:30
at 2020-12-06T01:30
By Mary
at 2020-12-09T18:04
at 2020-12-09T18:04
By Elizabeth
at 2020-12-10T00:02
at 2020-12-10T00:02
By Quanna
at 2020-12-10T22:45
at 2020-12-10T22:45
By Lauren
at 2020-12-15T01:23
at 2020-12-15T01:23
By Necoo
at 2020-12-19T13:26
at 2020-12-19T13:26
By Gilbert
at 2020-12-22T01:36
at 2020-12-22T01:36
By Ethan
at 2020-12-26T17:45
at 2020-12-26T17:45
By Thomas
at 2020-12-27T16:12
at 2020-12-27T16:12
By Isla
at 2020-12-30T01:51
at 2020-12-30T01:51
By Mia
at 2021-01-03T08:34
at 2021-01-03T08:34
By Candice
at 2021-01-05T06:25
at 2021-01-05T06:25
By Candice
at 2021-01-05T22:14
at 2021-01-05T22:14
By Blanche
at 2021-01-10T05:46
at 2021-01-10T05:46
By Caroline
at 2021-01-12T14:41
at 2021-01-12T14:41
By Yedda
at 2021-01-14T20:40
at 2021-01-14T20:40
By Mary
at 2021-01-17T01:12
at 2021-01-17T01:12
By Irma
at 2021-01-19T19:09
at 2021-01-19T19:09
By Regina
at 2021-01-20T17:54
at 2021-01-20T17:54
By Tom
at 2021-01-23T19:07
at 2021-01-23T19:07
By Regina
at 2021-01-27T05:56
at 2021-01-27T05:56
By George
at 2021-01-29T21:26
at 2021-01-29T21:26
By Hamiltion
at 2021-02-01T05:05
at 2021-02-01T05:05
By Ula
at 2021-02-05T23:29
at 2021-02-05T23:29
By Olivia
at 2021-02-10T05:18
at 2021-02-10T05:18
By Zora
at 2021-02-11T07:12
at 2021-02-11T07:12
By Oscar
at 2021-02-14T17:10
at 2021-02-14T17:10
By Quanna
at 2021-02-19T14:01
at 2021-02-19T14:01
By Dinah
at 2021-02-22T18:53
at 2021-02-22T18:53
By Robert
at 2021-02-23T23:53
at 2021-02-23T23:53
By Callum
at 2021-02-28T19:45
at 2021-02-28T19:45
By Noah
at 2021-03-03T12:51
at 2021-03-03T12:51
By Yuri
at 2021-03-03T16:37
at 2021-03-03T16:37
By Kyle
at 2021-03-05T23:53
at 2021-03-05T23:53
By Cara
at 2021-03-09T04:30
at 2021-03-09T04:30
By Cara
at 2021-03-09T06:17
at 2021-03-09T06:17
By Andy
at 2021-03-12T06:17
at 2021-03-12T06:17
By Damian
at 2021-03-15T10:53
at 2021-03-15T10:53
By Yedda
at 2021-03-18T23:14
at 2021-03-18T23:14
By Belly
at 2021-03-19T17:18
at 2021-03-19T17:18
By Damian
at 2021-03-21T21:37
at 2021-03-21T21:37
By Suhail Hany
at 2021-03-24T12:16
at 2021-03-24T12:16
By Hedwig
at 2021-03-26T01:58
at 2021-03-26T01:58
By Carolina Franco
at 2021-03-30T20:56
at 2021-03-30T20:56
By Hedda
at 2021-04-02T21:39
at 2021-04-02T21:39
By Eartha
at 2021-04-03T10:55
at 2021-04-03T10:55
By Hamiltion
at 2021-04-04T12:42
at 2021-04-04T12:42
By Zora
at 2021-04-07T20:57
at 2021-04-07T20:57
By John
at 2021-04-08T23:24
at 2021-04-08T23:24
By Frederica
at 2021-04-12T00:50
at 2021-04-12T00:50
By Selena
at 2021-04-13T05:46
at 2021-04-13T05:46
By Frederic
at 2021-04-17T16:40
at 2021-04-17T16:40
By Steve
at 2021-04-21T01:07
at 2021-04-21T01:07
By Audriana
at 2021-04-22T16:19
at 2021-04-22T16:19
By Edward Lewis
at 2021-04-23T05:00
at 2021-04-23T05:00
By Enid
at 2021-04-27T15:14
at 2021-04-27T15:14
By Ophelia
at 2021-04-28T14:30
at 2021-04-28T14:30
By Gary
at 2021-04-30T19:33
at 2021-04-30T19:33
By Yedda
at 2021-05-03T18:12
at 2021-05-03T18:12
By Jacky
at 2021-05-04T22:43
at 2021-05-04T22:43
By Edith
at 2021-05-08T00:03
at 2021-05-08T00:03
By Callum
at 2021-05-09T20:21
at 2021-05-09T20:21
By Jacob
at 2021-05-13T07:15
at 2021-05-13T07:15
By Damian
at 2021-05-17T04:58
at 2021-05-17T04:58
By Susan
at 2021-05-20T08:41
at 2021-05-20T08:41
By Hazel
at 2021-05-23T06:22
at 2021-05-23T06:22
By Suhail Hany
at 2021-05-25T05:43
at 2021-05-25T05:43
By Dorothy
at 2021-05-26T14:40
at 2021-05-26T14:40
By Ophelia
at 2021-05-31T10:47
at 2021-05-31T10:47
By Noah
at 2021-06-02T15:59
at 2021-06-02T15:59
By Oscar
at 2021-06-05T20:02
at 2021-06-05T20:02
By Ina
at 2021-06-07T21:44
at 2021-06-07T21:44
By Agatha
at 2021-06-09T18:00
at 2021-06-09T18:00
By Christine
at 2021-06-14T07:30
at 2021-06-14T07:30
By George
at 2021-06-19T04:16
at 2021-06-19T04:16
By Olivia
at 2021-06-23T19:52
at 2021-06-23T19:52
By Valerie
at 2021-06-24T18:10
at 2021-06-24T18:10
By Lydia
at 2021-06-24T20:02
at 2021-06-24T20:02
By Aaliyah
at 2021-06-28T01:45
at 2021-06-28T01:45
By James
at 2021-06-29T23:52
at 2021-06-29T23:52
By Quintina
at 2021-07-04T02:10
at 2021-07-04T02:10
By Olga
at 2021-07-08T06:20
at 2021-07-08T06:20
By Donna
at 2021-07-08T22:57
at 2021-07-08T22:57
By Mason
at 2021-07-11T20:51
at 2021-07-11T20:51
By Carol
at 2021-07-15T03:52
at 2021-07-15T03:52
By Suhail Hany
at 2021-07-19T20:08
at 2021-07-19T20:08
By Brianna
at 2021-07-22T23:42
at 2021-07-22T23:42
By Damian
at 2021-07-23T05:48
at 2021-07-23T05:48
Related Posts
3月16日 三大法人買賣佔發行量
By Jacob
at 2020-03-16T23:04
at 2020-03-16T23:04
2330台積電 多
By Lauren
at 2020-03-16T23:04
at 2020-03-16T23:04
VIX超級多~~~~~~~~
By Michael
at 2020-03-16T22:50
at 2020-03-16T22:50
股版多軍是反串還是真傻多?
By Yuri
at 2020-03-16T22:49
at 2020-03-16T22:49
Bring it on
By Susan
at 2020-03-16T22:47
at 2020-03-16T22:47