綠角大的這篇文章 - 股票

By Caitlin
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我曾經買過綠角的書"綠角的基金八堂課 2016年新版"來看
我個人覺得是有些問題啦...
書中對主動式投資的看法與論證過於簡陋
我很難想像一個NTU MED畢業的眼科醫師在論證"擇時進出是否可以勝過大盤"的時候
不使用生物統計學到的知識而流於主觀嘴砲
"當談論到擇時進出的大師時,你會想到誰?" "沒有,因為歷史上根本不存在這種人"
(以上節錄自綠角的基金八堂課 P.99)
這就是綠角對主動式投資的看法...WTF
只要綠角不知道就等於歷史上不存在 這是什麼論證?
"Stocks for the long run 第五版"至少還回測了200天移動平均(第20章
最後結論是"考慮風險調整後,200天移動平均法與買進並持有法的優劣很難區分"
"200天移動平均法"在計量交易系統的領域中不過是據點兵長等級的存在
但這個據點兵長居然可以跟指數化投資打個不分勝負呢
綠角如果也可以跑個回測 我相信他會對主動式投資改觀
ps.大師很多呀 Bridgewater 的Ray Dalio可是有40年績效喔
更別提James Simons.George Soros等不可勝數的大名字
可惜這些大師的績效在綠角的眼中不過都是隨機分配的產物
連統計檢定都不用做 只要綠角一句話就夠了呢
ps2.綠角似乎認為"股票市場+債券市場"等於全世界
而他所提到那些"眼中只有客戶的錢,績效遠遜於指數化投資"的主動式基金經理人
也都只侷限在主動式股票基金的範疇
這世界上明明有許多基金的績效長期可以勝過股市大盤 風險還更低
難道因為那些是Hedge Fund所以就不算嗎?
ps3.如果在台指期上使用簡單的順勢策略 績效也可以不輸指數型投資
中短期的順勢動能投資策略是許多大師都認同的做法
如Edward Thorp(最早定出選擇權定價模型的統計套利大師)
小弟不是大師也不是高手 但我可以提供簡單的回測績效
以下回測期間為2001~2017(更新至12/15) 標的:台指期連續期貨
Method1.無濾網 進場採0.4ATR突破 出場採2ATR追蹤型停止點 單純到不行
交易次數 316次(獲利129次) 每次交易的部位規模為總資金5%
17年間年化報酬率約13.8% 最大連續虧損是40%
光是這個無濾網的無腦多策略(只要漲一定程度就做多 回跌兩個ATR就出)
這種追高殺低的散戶行為 長久做下來居然可以賺錢 而且不輸給指數化投資
Method2.濾網:季線以下不做多 進場採0.4ATR突破 出場採2ATR追蹤型停止點
交易次數 193次(獲利94次) 每次交易的部位規模為總資金5%
17年間年化報酬率約18.3% 最大連續虧損是20.4%
加進簡單季線濾網後 不只獲利狂巴指數化投資 連最大連續虧損都降低到只有20%
這些數據不是紙上談兵 而是實實在在可以交易的方式 這些綠角都不知道
但卻可以一句話打死所有的主動式交易者? 實在是非常詭異
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據說綠角現在也不看診了專心傳授ETF課程 看來教課真的是很棒棒呢
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