為什麼不該使用3D認證(信用卡認證)的理由 - 信用卡
By Aaliyah
at 2012-09-11T01:35
at 2012-09-11T01:35
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這系列的回文,我第一個回覆是
→ even0213:希望原po能順利解決.但我實在不明白,為什麼就是有人會被 09/09 19:35
→ even0213:盜刷.我卡號效期存成文字檔放桌面,沒裝防毒,偶爾也會下載 09/09 19:36
→ even0213:有的沒的.持卡十年以來..沒被盜刷..我運氣好嗎? 09/09 19:36
→ even0213:3d是把風險轉嫁給消費者沒錯,但被取得了卡號效期加自設的 09/09 19:37
→ even0213:3d密碼.這該說運氣太好? 09/09 19:38
我開頭就說希望原po順利解決,沒要他吞下去,也沒對於是否該用
3D作出任何意見.
→ even0213:這種機制是為了減少爭議款的產生,國際組織需要為慣老板去 09/10 02:07
→ even0213:建立這樣的機制嗎.我不以為然.再說.大家的腦袋都很聰明? 09/10 02:08
→ even0213:說的話也很有道理? 可是偏偏能主宰體制的人是真正有能力 09/10 02:08
→ even0213:精明的人.
這段話僅為了回應
domain:這種 3D、MSC 驗證碼到底是誰引進的? 腦袋是不是有問題阿?
上visa的官網,可查到,它很明白的寫是為了特店,減少爭議款的產生
本來就不是在為了處理盜刷發生時,規範消費者讓承擔多少責任/損失
因為對於爭議款處理結果,多數不利的是店家,並非銀行的損失
→ even0213:D大,在你覺得銀行需提升安全機制時。請中信放出opt 專利 09/10 12:57
→ even0213:還有消費者對於本身電腦安全的認知跟處置也要提升 09/10 12:58
→ even0213:還是有人覺得消費者讓卡號效期。以及ssl 下自設的密碼被 09/10 13:05
→ even0213:不法取得,是肇因於銀行? 09/10 13:06
→ even0213:今年一至七月我本身網路交易約六十五筆 09/10 13:08
→ even0213:而我沒裝防毒,也有裝bt ,卻沒被盜刷過 09/10 13:09
→ even0213:那你覺得是我有問題,還是苦主有問題? 還是3d 有問題? 09/10 13:10
→ even0213:你們反3d 說白了,只因風險全由消費者牐擔 09/10 13:11
→ even0213:最好改成3d 風險全由銀行跟特店承擔,你們就不會反了 09/10 13:13
這段也是為了回應
domain:但至少應該引進像中信那種簡訊 OTP 與電腦分離的機制吧?
為何不進引中信otp,有其它版友提問,我也找了答案給他
推 DSNT:有人到現在還是搞不懂大家反對3D認證的原因是啥。重點是減少 09/10 07:08
→ DSNT:爭議款的做法是把風險全轉嫁給消費者?套句你的話我不以為然 09/10 07:09
你還講了,有人不懂大家反3D的原因.
在09/10 13:11 的推文裡.我就有回覆了
在這當下,我知道你們反對3D的原因;但我仍表示未支持或反對3D
→ denniswu:那為什麼3D驗證碼的被人偷走 就是持卡人要負全責風險? 09/10 13:51
→ denniswu:我會善盡責任保護我的卡片 善盡責任保護我的驗證碼 09/10 13:53
→ denniswu:但是這不代表我的卡片或是驗證碼不會被惡意人士偷走 09/10 13:53
我自始只想表達一件事,你設了密碼,銀行就有理由或立場
進而把風險轉嫁給消費者.原po想不付錢.只能靠打官
司,並且說服法官.
此一機制,對於消費者是不對等的契約內容.
契約無效,還得說服法官你密碼不是你外流或自己刷卡.
不是你講有很多店家可以透過交易過程取得密碼
或是有木馬就有可能導致你自行設定的密碼被偷取.
就可以勝訴
就算申訴到金管會或媒體,最多就是讓你像菜巿場喊價,看誰各
擔幾成而己.
http://ppt.cc/PkKI (新聞來源,以及判斷書)
DSNT:我只好奇「你贊同銀行要求消費者負 100% 責任的這項條款嗎?」而已,
我也回答你 n 了.
你卻說 答案是 N 卻在銀行還把這個條款列上去時勸大家用這個 3D 認證?
我哪裡勸了? 到這裡的回文為止,我己說"N"了
OTP或例子.僅就D大,U大的質疑回覆.
無關乎 我支持3d與否..你卻直指我在跳針或支持3D
說我上網很多,沒裝防毒,交易筆數.
也是為了回應T大,我其實經常上網消費,而且筆數相信不少
也都在不同的網站上,唯一就是沒到國外網站,但我卻沒遇到.
對,我也許好運,但原PO被盜刷,是用衰洨或好運可以當成証據
向法官說,我就衰洨被盜,所以我不想付100% ?
就這樣吧...
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