是不是有錢人都不用上班了? - 股票
By Lauren
at 2017-07-03T16:12
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大家討論很精采,如果有一個有錢的老爸,別說一直有3000萬可以玩,
每年可以穩定拿到300萬而且不用還,就很有本錢專職操盤了,
不過這畢竟是少數,如果剔除「靠爸」一族,靠自己力量的,
不管是自己工作賺下來的,或是投資達到3000萬門檻的,應該也不少,
但是這3000萬如果賠光,大概就沒有了,得重新再來,所以心態上會有所不同。
資金大小不同,操作的策略也會不同,資金小的可以全壓在一檔跟他拼,
資金大的,心理的壓力跟著大,不太會全壓了,至少會把一部份放在穩健的標的,
以0050來說,長期投資報酬很不錯,請看別人做的網頁:
http://hclovenote.blogspot.tw/2014/09/500050etf92-20140910.html
2007/3~2014/9每隔一段時間固定買入,IRR大約9.2%,
最後0050市價70有找,今天已經80元,算是很好的標的,
如果富爸爸每年給的300萬都投入,算算這十年本金3000萬,市值應該更多。
然而就我的認知而言,投資0050雖然已經有分散風險的作用,但仍然有缺點,
台灣經濟有雙集中現象,市場過於集中中國市場,產業過度集中資訊科技,
加上0050漲跌大多會跟著少數幾家公司,風險仍不夠分散。
所以我把部分資產放在海外,目前我的資產配置,台股包含0050約47%,
海外基金(不含ETF)佔約30%,美國ETF約5%,另有近19%以定存的形式暫時放著,
未來仍會調高海外ETF的比重,國內的可能要等大幅回檔才會大舉進場,
否則也只是一點一點買吧,也因此,實際投報率已經被拉低了。
至於本業,我還是繼續上班,畢竟前面有人說過,人是英雄,錢是膽,
還是要留一點後路,我的優勢就是上班有時間處理投資的事情,
加上身上有一些錢,又有一點點小聰明,利用一下優勢而已,
能賺就賺,但不能隨便玩,萬一虧光就慘了。
記得大學時代,討論到退休,我想如果有賺到1000萬我就退休了,
等我真的有了1000萬(光是15年來在台股獲利累計就有了),我沒有選擇退休,
下一個目標是3000萬,也許我也還不會退休吧!這是我學生時代沒想到的,
話說回來,有錢了以後需不需要工作,我覺得看心境而定,看心態而定,
如果我在學生時代就突然有了這麼一大筆錢,我可能會不工作。
如果問我什麼時候退休,大概是兩個情況,一個是小孩可以自立了,
另一個就是現在的工作沒了,而且找不到另一個好工作,
而且正值壯年就沒有工作,給長輩不好的印象,耳根肯定不清靜。
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每年可以穩定拿到300萬而且不用還,就很有本錢專職操盤了,
不過這畢竟是少數,如果剔除「靠爸」一族,靠自己力量的,
不管是自己工作賺下來的,或是投資達到3000萬門檻的,應該也不少,
但是這3000萬如果賠光,大概就沒有了,得重新再來,所以心態上會有所不同。
資金大小不同,操作的策略也會不同,資金小的可以全壓在一檔跟他拼,
資金大的,心理的壓力跟著大,不太會全壓了,至少會把一部份放在穩健的標的,
以0050來說,長期投資報酬很不錯,請看別人做的網頁:
http://hclovenote.blogspot.tw/2014/09/500050etf92-20140910.html
2007/3~2014/9每隔一段時間固定買入,IRR大約9.2%,
最後0050市價70有找,今天已經80元,算是很好的標的,
如果富爸爸每年給的300萬都投入,算算這十年本金3000萬,市值應該更多。
然而就我的認知而言,投資0050雖然已經有分散風險的作用,但仍然有缺點,
台灣經濟有雙集中現象,市場過於集中中國市場,產業過度集中資訊科技,
加上0050漲跌大多會跟著少數幾家公司,風險仍不夠分散。
所以我把部分資產放在海外,目前我的資產配置,台股包含0050約47%,
海外基金(不含ETF)佔約30%,美國ETF約5%,另有近19%以定存的形式暫時放著,
未來仍會調高海外ETF的比重,國內的可能要等大幅回檔才會大舉進場,
否則也只是一點一點買吧,也因此,實際投報率已經被拉低了。
至於本業,我還是繼續上班,畢竟前面有人說過,人是英雄,錢是膽,
還是要留一點後路,我的優勢就是上班有時間處理投資的事情,
加上身上有一些錢,又有一點點小聰明,利用一下優勢而已,
能賺就賺,但不能隨便玩,萬一虧光就慘了。
記得大學時代,討論到退休,我想如果有賺到1000萬我就退休了,
等我真的有了1000萬(光是15年來在台股獲利累計就有了),我沒有選擇退休,
下一個目標是3000萬,也許我也還不會退休吧!這是我學生時代沒想到的,
話說回來,有錢了以後需不需要工作,我覺得看心境而定,看心態而定,
如果我在學生時代就突然有了這麼一大筆錢,我可能會不工作。
如果問我什麼時候退休,大概是兩個情況,一個是小孩可以自立了,
另一個就是現在的工作沒了,而且找不到另一個好工作,
而且正值壯年就沒有工作,給長輩不好的印象,耳根肯定不清靜。
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