小魯真心懇求"先爬文" (終身醫療) - 保險

By Lily
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剛剛花了點時間爬文~ /終生 /終身 /算 之類關鍵字,找不到相關的計算文...
有沒有大大可以提供下網址或者文章代碼,裡面有比較詳盡的計算?
剛剛接到電話,我一聽到一個月保費兩千就覺得CP值感覺爆低,但沒仔細算覺得不踏實
小弟數學不好,希望有高手提供算法讓後輩臨摹一下~~
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那麼背景是:
1.非月光族,甚至可以說幾乎沒有物質消費,
扣除必繳的(給政府/給電信...等),會花錢的幾乎只剩吃飯...
就算買東西,也都是買東西來賣... 變成是貨品而非消費。
例如買進幾十隻手機平板,但我自己一隻都不留全賣掉賺差價不自用,嫌貴...
我用白牌平板/便宜手機就很好用了,機皇奢侈品是賣給別人用來賺錢的
2.假設錢在我手上年投報率5%,財產100萬,30歲,離75歲還45年,離99歲69年
(現在實際投報率應該20%以上,但金額越大%會降低,5%假設是保守的數字)
無經濟壓力,買不買都不影響生活
3.為了計算方便,先把"科技在進步",45年後的手術可能保險賠不到等等排除...
(有人提出這點,只是這樣考慮進去要怎麼算XD)
4.接下來就是計算了,我想把20年前牛肉麵,20年後御飯糰的概念,化成實際數字,
會比較好理解一點...
假設對手是 中信 健康寶,保費每月1700,共408000,99歲領回106%,
年利率0.087%... 假設都很健康沒花到保費所以不用扣除。
(剛剛接到電話 被盧了好久,我不會沒由來就拒絕,我希望算完真的不好才拒絕人)
google使用 定期定額計算機(Annuity Future Value)、複利計算機來算
a.假設將每月1700拿去做5%的小投資小生意
年投資報酬率為 5%時,每月投資的金額1,700,經過 20年,最後資產為 674,545元
b.後面49年則不再投入每月1700,只以本金5%算複利,算出來是7,366,930
...................................(汗) 5%抓太高了嗎= =a
好吧,繼續算。
也就是說,若買這保險,99歲時拿回40幾萬,但99歲前有保障,若不買則是7百多萬
感覺起來,75歲之前,自己滾這些錢,就算發生意外,實際保障還比保險來得好!?
但這有個盲點,如果我五年後就掛了,那買保險的CP就破表了
五年後定期定額計算機才10幾萬,但保險領幾百萬而且保費還不用繼續繳
所以這樣算好像沒什麼意義,因為必須把保障納入 一起計算才有意義。
那若去買定期定額的保單呢!? 同樣的保障下花多少錢,有沒有高手能舉例計算下?
每月繳幾百元的保費,繳了就不會回來OK,保障是相等或者大於健康保,
1700-保費後剩餘的錢,拿去用計算機滾到75歲,再來跟健康寶PK一下...
也就是說,我想算出,終生險【比較貴多出來的部分】,75歲時是多少錢,
而75~99歲的保障,是否值得用那些錢去買...
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有沒有大大可以提供下網址或者文章代碼,裡面有比較詳盡的計算?
剛剛接到電話,我一聽到一個月保費兩千就覺得CP值感覺爆低,但沒仔細算覺得不踏實
小弟數學不好,希望有高手提供算法讓後輩臨摹一下~~
====
那麼背景是:
1.非月光族,甚至可以說幾乎沒有物質消費,
扣除必繳的(給政府/給電信...等),會花錢的幾乎只剩吃飯...
就算買東西,也都是買東西來賣... 變成是貨品而非消費。
例如買進幾十隻手機平板,但我自己一隻都不留全賣掉賺差價不自用,嫌貴...
我用白牌平板/便宜手機就很好用了,機皇奢侈品是賣給別人用來賺錢的
2.假設錢在我手上年投報率5%,財產100萬,30歲,離75歲還45年,離99歲69年
(現在實際投報率應該20%以上,但金額越大%會降低,5%假設是保守的數字)
無經濟壓力,買不買都不影響生活
3.為了計算方便,先把"科技在進步",45年後的手術可能保險賠不到等等排除...
(有人提出這點,只是這樣考慮進去要怎麼算XD)
4.接下來就是計算了,我想把20年前牛肉麵,20年後御飯糰的概念,化成實際數字,
會比較好理解一點...
假設對手是 中信 健康寶,保費每月1700,共408000,99歲領回106%,
年利率0.087%... 假設都很健康沒花到保費所以不用扣除。
(剛剛接到電話 被盧了好久,我不會沒由來就拒絕,我希望算完真的不好才拒絕人)
google使用 定期定額計算機(Annuity Future Value)、複利計算機來算
a.假設將每月1700拿去做5%的小投資小生意
年投資報酬率為 5%時,每月投資的金額1,700,經過 20年,最後資產為 674,545元
b.後面49年則不再投入每月1700,只以本金5%算複利,算出來是7,366,930
...................................(汗) 5%抓太高了嗎= =a
好吧,繼續算。
也就是說,若買這保險,99歲時拿回40幾萬,但99歲前有保障,若不買則是7百多萬
感覺起來,75歲之前,自己滾這些錢,就算發生意外,實際保障還比保險來得好!?
但這有個盲點,如果我五年後就掛了,那買保險的CP就破表了
五年後定期定額計算機才10幾萬,但保險領幾百萬而且保費還不用繼續繳
所以這樣算好像沒什麼意義,因為必須把保障納入 一起計算才有意義。
那若去買定期定額的保單呢!? 同樣的保障下花多少錢,有沒有高手能舉例計算下?
每月繳幾百元的保費,繳了就不會回來OK,保障是相等或者大於健康保,
1700-保費後剩餘的錢,拿去用計算機滾到75歲,再來跟健康寶PK一下...
也就是說,我想算出,終生險【比較貴多出來的部分】,75歲時是多少錢,
而75~99歲的保障,是否值得用那些錢去買...
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