對所謂“長期持有”開始有些新的看法 - 股票

By Doris
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到底該走技術分析還是價值評估,我想是很多人煩惱的問題。
最近接觸了一些技術分析的基礎課程,意外的發現,各種指標啦
線圖啦....其實都是非常嚴謹的數學/統計學產物!
我以前對技術分析的偏見是:“不就一堆老師在事後看圖說故事”,
等到自己試著去了解這些指標之後,才發現原來它們確實有意義,
只是這些指標的意義並不能100%轉化為最終的獲利,但是價值評估
一樣不可能100%轉化為最終獲利啊,因為黑天鵝對這二個派別是很
公平的各打50大板。
對技術分析有了初步的興趣,就想找出台股的歷史資料,先來暖暖身。
這一找,乖乖不得了....還沒開始練習我對各種指標的解讀能力,我就
對所謂“價值投資/長期持有”產生了以前不曾有過的疑惑。
這是我自己整理的從1990~2018年間,台股崩盤較嚴重的紀錄,
https://i.imgur.com/iPUVnLq.jpg
在29年內剛好一共篩選出14次的崩盤紀錄,平均約二年就會崩一次。
(我篩選的方式是把台股K線圖攤開來,然後將視覺上能清楚看出最高點
和最低點在短期中有巨大落差的時間段擷取出來,再去查對應的日期/點數)
你說1990那太久以前了,當時股市的健全程度和現在不能比。可是
一個驚人的事實:從2011~2018這8年間,被我篩選出來的崩盤紀錄
剛好是4次,也就是說無論股市/金融系統再怎麼健全,照樣2年一崩!
看到這樣無意篩選出來的結果,心裡真的直冒冷汗......
“買進持有放20年,你就可以賺xx倍”,突然覺得這種話和投顧老師喊的明牌
一樣令人作噁。
對,依照72法則,如果用年複利3.5%去滾20年,財產可翻倍。
在台股找個殖利率3.5%的股票很容易,但是:必須持續不間斷滾20年!!!
“哈囉,有人在家嗎?”
20年耶!這段時間你會經歷至少10次以上的台股大崩盤,你不但要能挺過,
還必須在崩盤時期堅持買進!這誰能做到啊?不是聰明人,而是有錢人!
巴菲特他就算被套牢1000億,他還有1億的現金夠他生活10輩子。
可是我們呢?被套個1000萬,就可以準備跳樓了!
真的,徹底了解之前十年在股市能以獲利300萬結算,真他X的是老天保佑!
你問我現在有沒有哪檔股票敢一買放7年....還真XX的沒有,以後也不會再有!
--
最近接觸了一些技術分析的基礎課程,意外的發現,各種指標啦
線圖啦....其實都是非常嚴謹的數學/統計學產物!
我以前對技術分析的偏見是:“不就一堆老師在事後看圖說故事”,
等到自己試著去了解這些指標之後,才發現原來它們確實有意義,
只是這些指標的意義並不能100%轉化為最終的獲利,但是價值評估
一樣不可能100%轉化為最終獲利啊,因為黑天鵝對這二個派別是很
公平的各打50大板。
對技術分析有了初步的興趣,就想找出台股的歷史資料,先來暖暖身。
這一找,乖乖不得了....還沒開始練習我對各種指標的解讀能力,我就
對所謂“價值投資/長期持有”產生了以前不曾有過的疑惑。
這是我自己整理的從1990~2018年間,台股崩盤較嚴重的紀錄,
https://i.imgur.com/iPUVnLq.jpg
在29年內剛好一共篩選出14次的崩盤紀錄,平均約二年就會崩一次。
(我篩選的方式是把台股K線圖攤開來,然後將視覺上能清楚看出最高點
和最低點在短期中有巨大落差的時間段擷取出來,再去查對應的日期/點數)
你說1990那太久以前了,當時股市的健全程度和現在不能比。可是
一個驚人的事實:從2011~2018這8年間,被我篩選出來的崩盤紀錄
剛好是4次,也就是說無論股市/金融系統再怎麼健全,照樣2年一崩!
看到這樣無意篩選出來的結果,心裡真的直冒冷汗......
“買進持有放20年,你就可以賺xx倍”,突然覺得這種話和投顧老師喊的明牌
一樣令人作噁。
對,依照72法則,如果用年複利3.5%去滾20年,財產可翻倍。
在台股找個殖利率3.5%的股票很容易,但是:必須持續不間斷滾20年!!!
“哈囉,有人在家嗎?”
20年耶!這段時間你會經歷至少10次以上的台股大崩盤,你不但要能挺過,
還必須在崩盤時期堅持買進!這誰能做到啊?不是聰明人,而是有錢人!
巴菲特他就算被套牢1000億,他還有1億的現金夠他生活10輩子。
可是我們呢?被套個1000萬,就可以準備跳樓了!
真的,徹底了解之前十年在股市能以獲利300萬結算,真他X的是老天保佑!
你問我現在有沒有哪檔股票敢一買放7年....還真XX的沒有,以後也不會再有!
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