台積收盤沒站穩500是不是不太妙 - 股票
By Hedwig
at 2020-11-17T10:37
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台G這個獲利能力,跟資本支出有很大的關係
我不太確定TSMC內部怎麼定義折舊率,不過要注意的是
十年前我聽TSMC折舊率似乎在10%左右,這兩年看會計科目大概都是在12%
不太確定是因為設備製程越來越高階所以壽命越來越短還是怎樣
同時台G每年都在調高資本支出
2016年破百億鎂開始,2017大概是11B,2018往上推到12B
2019直上15B,2020預估17B
https://imgur.com/hAnfcLi.jpg
而我們可以看到,其實資本支出真正暴增是2010年開始
然後我覺得客戶也都很精,就算你目前製程一枝獨秀
可是也不會讓你隨意喊價,所以你會看到TSMC稅後淨利率大概都壓在35%上下
簡單來說,TSMC漲客戶的價格很大一部分是製程投入真的非常貴
以這個數字來看,TSMC用每年2B~3B的資本支出成長
2021大概折舊會成長1.6B左右,倒推回去就是營收成長要多4.5B左右
2020 TSMC預估成長20%,大概會落在42.8B上下(劉德音說的)
也就是不算其他因素要保底35%的Net Income,2021至少要成長10.5%
當然用2020年目前的狀態看來10.5%並不是什麼很高的目標
然而要知道這麼大的公司,意味著那個base是非常驚人的數字
你要說量體本身大,就算margin下降一點還是賺大錢
帝寶的10%和農地的100%還是沒有比較性
這就會發出一個警訊就是: TSMC的WACC在上升了
我本人還是覺得台G還是會是世界第一至少好一陣子,甚至直到十年後
可是當資本支出成長速度變成這樣的時候
我們也要留意資金成本帶來的利潤成長動力衰退
補充一下:
以上言論不代表股票漲跌,我討論的是財報觀點出發,中間有漏歡迎指正
股票價格部分,你覺得他會漲就會漲,會跌就會跌
可是TSMC是國際級的股票,比起某些妖股我想財報還是有一定的指標性
補充2:
很多人誤會我看空,我只是稍微提一下看台G財報的看法
關鍵在於: ***資本戰還打不打得下去?
今天***要是縮了(目前看來有這個趨勢),台G就可以喘口氣整理一下擠個牙膏
只要一兩年度的資本戰規模變小,TSMC獲利能力就會暴增
問題是***真的縮手,只是爽到台G而已,所以他們就算想緩緩也不會緩太多
※ 引述《t200830217 (Scott)》之銘言:
: 昨天台積夜盤見證破百歷史,股版一片歌舞昇平
: 今天開盤直衝506,結果被龐大賣壓賣下來
: 應該很多大戶都默默出貨了,說不定連隔壁大媽都忍不住賣了
: 今天收盤台積沒站穩500以上是不是很不妙
: 想當初盤了整整三個月才破466,會不會又再三個月呢?
: 畢竟5開頭大家都直接賣出了,信仰感覺都不太堅定
: 只是這次506學長好像沒那麼恐慌,不像當初466學長哭天喊地的
: 我猜今天投信跟八大應該都出貨了
: 祝福大家賺大錢囉~
: 台積電ㄟ(ˋ口ˊ)ㄏ台積電
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