反擊美國!中國下令公家機關3年內換掉外 - 股票

By Odelette
at 2019-12-10T11:07
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這些硬體你說中國有在持續研發就算了
那一狗票生產力工具我想請問一下要怎麼弄阿?
以我比較熟的Oracle/SAP系列,一堆系統根本沒辦法用那些開源軟體好嘛
一家公司的運作要換系統,不是說電腦灌一灌就可以解決了
背後一堆東西要重新橋接,一堆套裝要改設定,一堆程序要重做
平常只要Windows更新,那些生產力工具就哀鴻遍野
有時候為了要繼續完整運行Oracle/SAP,還要刻意裝個舊版穩定軟體來使用
今天你要是換了整個架構,是要花多少錢去重新建立這個生產力工具生態圈?
難到要回到大躍進時代? 現在一個會計+Oracle拿去土法煉鋼可能要20個會計才能做
動畫師要重新改為手繪? 下訂單改為傳真?
光是一想到一堆Supply Chain/Accounting系統幾乎都還是要用M$
就知道中國這個口號真的喊壯膽的而已
一個ERP系統的轉移,從0到有,效率再好的公司要能到穩定運作至少也要一年
中間要做很多溝通、訓練、舊資料轉移、抓蟲.....
你現在跟我說三年內要全部汰換? 其中一年就要拿去做橋接
剩下兩年你要從底層開始寫,怎麼想都覺得是要搬出老毛那一套大躍進?
當然中國要自己搞也不能說是完全錯誤的方向
畢竟真的自己弄,才能繼續往核心的科技樹成長,不一直做世界工廠
世界工廠在人口紅利逐漸消失的情況,本來就做不了多久
與其說貿易戰是讓中國受重傷,其實也有一派人說長遠來看對中國其實反而是好的
※ 引述《lpoijk (膀胱大)》之銘言:
: 前陣子才聽到類似的消息,
: 首先是兆芯x86 chip出來,
: 效能雖然比不上AMD,,Intel,
: 但是當作文書機應該沒有太大問題。
: 如果美國要擋 大概只能從三個方面下手
: 1. x86授權:看看AMD or Intel要不要收回授權
: 不過就算收回,我猜中國也會厚著臉皮,
: 繼續生產盜版的chip吧?
: 2. 軟體:這我覺得最難擋
: 跑Linux當然也可能,但是最快的方式,
: 我覺得是跑盜版Windows... 純淨版?
: 3. 製造:
: 2020聽說兆芯要產7nm chip,
: 那麼是誰代工呢?中國自己製造?
: 還是TSMC or 三星?
: 這部分出手,大概就戰爭開始了XD
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那一狗票生產力工具我想請問一下要怎麼弄阿?
以我比較熟的Oracle/SAP系列,一堆系統根本沒辦法用那些開源軟體好嘛
一家公司的運作要換系統,不是說電腦灌一灌就可以解決了
背後一堆東西要重新橋接,一堆套裝要改設定,一堆程序要重做
平常只要Windows更新,那些生產力工具就哀鴻遍野
有時候為了要繼續完整運行Oracle/SAP,還要刻意裝個舊版穩定軟體來使用
今天你要是換了整個架構,是要花多少錢去重新建立這個生產力工具生態圈?
難到要回到大躍進時代? 現在一個會計+Oracle拿去土法煉鋼可能要20個會計才能做
動畫師要重新改為手繪? 下訂單改為傳真?
光是一想到一堆Supply Chain/Accounting系統幾乎都還是要用M$
就知道中國這個口號真的喊壯膽的而已
一個ERP系統的轉移,從0到有,效率再好的公司要能到穩定運作至少也要一年
中間要做很多溝通、訓練、舊資料轉移、抓蟲.....
你現在跟我說三年內要全部汰換? 其中一年就要拿去做橋接
剩下兩年你要從底層開始寫,怎麼想都覺得是要搬出老毛那一套大躍進?
當然中國要自己搞也不能說是完全錯誤的方向
畢竟真的自己弄,才能繼續往核心的科技樹成長,不一直做世界工廠
世界工廠在人口紅利逐漸消失的情況,本來就做不了多久
與其說貿易戰是讓中國受重傷,其實也有一派人說長遠來看對中國其實反而是好的
※ 引述《lpoijk (膀胱大)》之銘言:
: 前陣子才聽到類似的消息,
: 首先是兆芯x86 chip出來,
: 效能雖然比不上AMD,,Intel,
: 但是當作文書機應該沒有太大問題。
: 如果美國要擋 大概只能從三個方面下手
: 1. x86授權:看看AMD or Intel要不要收回授權
: 不過就算收回,我猜中國也會厚著臉皮,
: 繼續生產盜版的chip吧?
: 2. 軟體:這我覺得最難擋
: 跑Linux當然也可能,但是最快的方式,
: 我覺得是跑盜版Windows... 純淨版?
: 3. 製造:
: 2020聽說兆芯要產7nm chip,
: 那麼是誰代工呢?中國自己製造?
: 還是TSMC or 三星?
: 這部分出手,大概就戰爭開始了XD
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