做定存股遇到瓶頸,想改走價差路線 - 股票

By Andrew
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※ 引述《kochin (kochin)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《darkstar07 (高級大法師)》之銘言:
: : 這種只漲不跌,規律震盪的年代
: : 做定存股遇到瓶頸
: : 不懂技術你只會買在震盪區間的高點
: : 震盪區的低點到了也不會看,就慢慢看他震盪上去不敢追了
: : 27.3買了玉山金,現在很慘
: : 有自己去看過一些技術書籍,但真的看不太懂
: : 需要有師父領進門
: : 想請問有沒有這種技術分析班可以報??
: : 我願意花學費,想要學會能有自信的自己講出以下分析的話...
: : 這廂型格局、這破五日線要觀察、這破季線可以追
: : 現在沒量..等量出來再看看
: : 現在量很大,有人在裡面..你可以安心追
: : 外資今天大賣..但法人支撐..這代表.....
: : 請問能成為這種人,要去哪裡找誰學這些知識??
: : 平常要看什麼書? 要看什麼節目? 要去找誰上什麼課?
: 雖然有點懷疑是否反串,因為技術分析與存股的邏輯操作在某些時候會有矛盾發生。
: 但還是認真來回應一下。
: 當然也是要看你是用什麼方式去做存股,以及存的股票是否真的符合存股的精髓。
: 存股其實最重要的二件事就是選擇標的,穩健、殖利率高是最基本的要求。
: 但通常這種股票的股性都會相對較來得牛皮,所以存股的標的基本上是較無價差可賺的。
: 試想一下,會有大量價差的股票,通常都是公司的營運會有重大變化,
: 訂單營收爆增爆減、經營副業有成、業外收入、或是該業界發生重大變化等等,
: 但這種股票估且不論人為炒作的部份佔多少,股價對於EPS的反應導致股價發生大變化,
: 例如國巨賺40時,股價衝到1300,加上市場對未來展望的樂觀,這是合理的價位。
: 宏達電賺40元時,股價一樣是衝到1100,在當下也是合理的價位。
: 但是當公司的營運趕不上市場的期待,甚至出現衰退時,股價當然就會一路狂洩。
: 存股當然不能把資金押在這種類型的股票上,所以許多存股標的較常見的都是傳產金融
: 再來說說技術分析,技術分析的本質其實就是股價與成交量的分析而已,
: 用某段時間內成交的價位與張數來推定這段時間內進出場的人的平均成本,
: 再用這來推斷哪個點位大家認為高、哪個點位大家認為低,來做為進出場的依據。
: 但是技術分析很大的盲點是這所謂的市場共識很容易被突如其來的消息及市場變化干擾,
: 或是成交量少一點的股票也可以人為操作技術分析所呈現出來的各種訊息。
: 要用技術分析主要是想要在股票市場上賺取價差,中短線為主的投資人,
其實我應該改標題,因為不懂技術,只漲不跌,陷入長期不敢買股的窘境
長高高都不敢買,股本就無法擴大,股息就沒辦法增加,只能躺在銀行領0.8趴
我只是想懂技術指標,就像我上面講的外資怎樣、法人怎樣、箱型格局怎樣、
季線怎樣、反轉訊號.....去輔助我定存股的下手點
今年我很厄宛不懂技術導致錯過的
1.南帝
今年初2字頭價位,差0.2沒買到,一飆不回頭
2.聯華食
除權息前有40.x價位,差0.1沒買到,隔天也弱勢又不積極
結果股息領了,現在又回42,前一陣子40字頭又猶疑
3.一元金
朋友會看買在17.6,自己套在18.4和18.1,現在又陷入18要不要加碼?
因為一元金我認為18買長期保證賺,但不懂技術,沒辦法精準買在17.6
一差就是半年的股息
4.玉山金
27.3買,現在一路弱勢,該買還是不買?
5.聚陽
從12X我就一直在注意他在偷飆了,一路飆上快兩百,除權息後回檔
就是不懂這些才不敢買,懂了買下去13X便宜買就爽領股息
: 存股的概念是偏向於投資該公司的價值,在股價經過市場振盪後,
: 終究會還給它適合它的股價,在這前提下穩定的賺取公司的營利。
: 所以才會有定期定額的概念,就是想要買到該檔股票長期下來的平均價位。
: 我個人建議你若要存股還是主打基本面,若某檔股票偏離該公司的EPS太多,
: 那時候才是你加碼或是逢高獲利了結的依據,
: 就像中華電如果漲到150,你就知道他每年大概都是發4塊多,就可以考慮先賣,
: 反之若是跌到70,當然就可以考慮加碼。 (當然這種狀況發生機率不高只是舉例。)
: 簡單的去用基本面當進出的考量即可。
: 技術分析這偏向於心理面的東西,不建議你太深入研究,也不建議你當投資的依據。
這東西我清楚,但今年如果只懂EPS和殖利率,根本賺不到錢
每張都飆很高,你看不懂這些指標,實在真的不敢下手
你看玉山金不是除權息後很旺,現在一路弱勢下來看不到底
我之前一度26想逃,但就是沒有技術分析能力,外資怎樣法人怎樣、量怎樣
主力還有沒有在裡面怎樣,沒這些指標輔助,下不了決心,抱到現在剩24字頭
再說買好了,台泥40字頭買不買? 聯華食42字頭要不要進?
有可能進了,但過幾天跌個2元,不致大賠,但你今年的股息就虧掉了
明明可以靠能力撿到更低價位
所以才想問,怎樣可以學到這些?
我願意花錢找老師學怎麼看,但我不花錢找投顧跟進跟出
另補充我的體悟,你就算再強,這些只是輔助
增加你的勝率用的,買股沒有100%準的,但只要有80%準度,就能幫你賺錢
--
: ※ 引述《darkstar07 (高級大法師)》之銘言:
: : 這種只漲不跌,規律震盪的年代
: : 做定存股遇到瓶頸
: : 不懂技術你只會買在震盪區間的高點
: : 震盪區的低點到了也不會看,就慢慢看他震盪上去不敢追了
: : 27.3買了玉山金,現在很慘
: : 有自己去看過一些技術書籍,但真的看不太懂
: : 需要有師父領進門
: : 想請問有沒有這種技術分析班可以報??
: : 我願意花學費,想要學會能有自信的自己講出以下分析的話...
: : 這廂型格局、這破五日線要觀察、這破季線可以追
: : 現在沒量..等量出來再看看
: : 現在量很大,有人在裡面..你可以安心追
: : 外資今天大賣..但法人支撐..這代表.....
: : 請問能成為這種人,要去哪裡找誰學這些知識??
: : 平常要看什麼書? 要看什麼節目? 要去找誰上什麼課?
: 雖然有點懷疑是否反串,因為技術分析與存股的邏輯操作在某些時候會有矛盾發生。
: 但還是認真來回應一下。
: 當然也是要看你是用什麼方式去做存股,以及存的股票是否真的符合存股的精髓。
: 存股其實最重要的二件事就是選擇標的,穩健、殖利率高是最基本的要求。
: 但通常這種股票的股性都會相對較來得牛皮,所以存股的標的基本上是較無價差可賺的。
: 試想一下,會有大量價差的股票,通常都是公司的營運會有重大變化,
: 訂單營收爆增爆減、經營副業有成、業外收入、或是該業界發生重大變化等等,
: 但這種股票估且不論人為炒作的部份佔多少,股價對於EPS的反應導致股價發生大變化,
: 例如國巨賺40時,股價衝到1300,加上市場對未來展望的樂觀,這是合理的價位。
: 宏達電賺40元時,股價一樣是衝到1100,在當下也是合理的價位。
: 但是當公司的營運趕不上市場的期待,甚至出現衰退時,股價當然就會一路狂洩。
: 存股當然不能把資金押在這種類型的股票上,所以許多存股標的較常見的都是傳產金融
: 再來說說技術分析,技術分析的本質其實就是股價與成交量的分析而已,
: 用某段時間內成交的價位與張數來推定這段時間內進出場的人的平均成本,
: 再用這來推斷哪個點位大家認為高、哪個點位大家認為低,來做為進出場的依據。
: 但是技術分析很大的盲點是這所謂的市場共識很容易被突如其來的消息及市場變化干擾,
: 或是成交量少一點的股票也可以人為操作技術分析所呈現出來的各種訊息。
: 要用技術分析主要是想要在股票市場上賺取價差,中短線為主的投資人,
其實我應該改標題,因為不懂技術,只漲不跌,陷入長期不敢買股的窘境
長高高都不敢買,股本就無法擴大,股息就沒辦法增加,只能躺在銀行領0.8趴
我只是想懂技術指標,就像我上面講的外資怎樣、法人怎樣、箱型格局怎樣、
季線怎樣、反轉訊號.....去輔助我定存股的下手點
今年我很厄宛不懂技術導致錯過的
1.南帝
今年初2字頭價位,差0.2沒買到,一飆不回頭
2.聯華食
除權息前有40.x價位,差0.1沒買到,隔天也弱勢又不積極
結果股息領了,現在又回42,前一陣子40字頭又猶疑
3.一元金
朋友會看買在17.6,自己套在18.4和18.1,現在又陷入18要不要加碼?
因為一元金我認為18買長期保證賺,但不懂技術,沒辦法精準買在17.6
一差就是半年的股息
4.玉山金
27.3買,現在一路弱勢,該買還是不買?
5.聚陽
從12X我就一直在注意他在偷飆了,一路飆上快兩百,除權息後回檔
就是不懂這些才不敢買,懂了買下去13X便宜買就爽領股息
: 存股的概念是偏向於投資該公司的價值,在股價經過市場振盪後,
: 終究會還給它適合它的股價,在這前提下穩定的賺取公司的營利。
: 所以才會有定期定額的概念,就是想要買到該檔股票長期下來的平均價位。
: 我個人建議你若要存股還是主打基本面,若某檔股票偏離該公司的EPS太多,
: 那時候才是你加碼或是逢高獲利了結的依據,
: 就像中華電如果漲到150,你就知道他每年大概都是發4塊多,就可以考慮先賣,
: 反之若是跌到70,當然就可以考慮加碼。 (當然這種狀況發生機率不高只是舉例。)
: 簡單的去用基本面當進出的考量即可。
: 技術分析這偏向於心理面的東西,不建議你太深入研究,也不建議你當投資的依據。
這東西我清楚,但今年如果只懂EPS和殖利率,根本賺不到錢
每張都飆很高,你看不懂這些指標,實在真的不敢下手
你看玉山金不是除權息後很旺,現在一路弱勢下來看不到底
我之前一度26想逃,但就是沒有技術分析能力,外資怎樣法人怎樣、量怎樣
主力還有沒有在裡面怎樣,沒這些指標輔助,下不了決心,抱到現在剩24字頭
再說買好了,台泥40字頭買不買? 聯華食42字頭要不要進?
有可能進了,但過幾天跌個2元,不致大賠,但你今年的股息就虧掉了
明明可以靠能力撿到更低價位
所以才想問,怎樣可以學到這些?
我願意花錢找老師學怎麼看,但我不花錢找投顧跟進跟出
另補充我的體悟,你就算再強,這些只是輔助
增加你的勝率用的,買股沒有100%準的,但只要有80%準度,就能幫你賺錢
--
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