三商美邦「六六大順增額養老」儲蓄險 - 投資

By John
at 2009-05-11T02:48
at 2009-05-11T02:48
Table of Contents
※ 引述《linger3716 (小狐狸)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《elvies (夜涼如水)》之銘言:
: : 其實你要保本我可以跟你講...
: ^^^^
: : 買高收益債券(比如聯博高收益) 去查一下歷史配息紀錄...
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: : 一年配息約7%-8%吧 十年有80% (光配息就有哩)
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: http://tinyurl.com/o67z63
: http://tinyurl.com/cd2spn
: 節錄綠角在續篇的話:
: "高收益絕對不是平白而來,是你去冒風險才會得到"
: "買了高收益債,然後年年順風,坐擁高收益?
: 繼續作夢吧。投資有那麼簡單、世界有那麼單純,那就好了。"
: 雖然最近聯博全球高收益債也有一波反彈
: 然而當時聽信這篇文章而在相對高點單筆投入的人,還要忍受等著解套的煎熬
: : 那你買那種還本醫療或還本防癌的還要鎖15 20年哩 XDDD
: : 保守的做法用保險是可以 但保險的本意還是要先做對保障..
: : 我個人賭爛鎖金流 所以只投保保障型的就好哩^^
: : 投資絕對不碰保險這塊(一般人不用節稅哩^^)
: : 配息基金放長就會領回本哩XDD(當然贖回的部份本金不保證啦)
: : 用閒錢買就好哩...
: 推 linger3716:高收益(垃圾債)基金在不景氣面臨侵蝕本金的風險會比較 08/08 16:38
: → linger3716:小?你如何比較儲蓄險的流動風險跟高收益債的違約風險? 08/08 16:40
: 推 linger3716:高收益基金同樣有面臨要用錢時淨值處於持續下滑的風險 08/08 16:45
: 推 linger3716:我想除非可以量化,否則相關風險還是只能讓當事人自己 08/08 16:48
: → elvies:樓上可以先弄懂基金公司怎麼處理債基違約問題.. 08/08 16:49
: → elvies:如果你不懂 清楚再來挑戰我~ 科~ 08/08 16:50
: → elvies:我坦白跟你講我身邊一堆人用聯博那檔配息賺多爽的fu啦XD 08/08 16:50
: → elvies:比儲蓄險好太多了..而且他們身上都有足夠的定壽 ^^ 08/08 16:50
: http://tinyurl.com/r558kv
: 該文與我的認知相去不遠
: 特來請教原 po 認為基金公司是怎麼處理債基違約問題
幫忙補充一下聯博處理債基違約問題
去年雷曼倒閉 AIG爆發財務危機
不巧的 聯博美收兩檔公司債都中
怎麼處理呢
就是不計價直接砍掉
而損失直接反應在淨值中
當時聯博給的官方說法是
聯博一向保守並以風險為優先考量
故投資組合相當分散
共投資了超過百檔的公司債
由於每檔比重都不高
所以影響不大 請客戶放心
由於這個答覆我相當不能接受
所以經過這次事件
聯博在我心中就大大扣分了
--
: ※ 引述《elvies (夜涼如水)》之銘言:
: : 其實你要保本我可以跟你講...
: ^^^^
: : 買高收益債券(比如聯博高收益) 去查一下歷史配息紀錄...
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: : 一年配息約7%-8%吧 十年有80% (光配息就有哩)
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: http://tinyurl.com/o67z63
: http://tinyurl.com/cd2spn
: 節錄綠角在續篇的話:
: "高收益絕對不是平白而來,是你去冒風險才會得到"
: "買了高收益債,然後年年順風,坐擁高收益?
: 繼續作夢吧。投資有那麼簡單、世界有那麼單純,那就好了。"
: 雖然最近聯博全球高收益債也有一波反彈
: 然而當時聽信這篇文章而在相對高點單筆投入的人,還要忍受等著解套的煎熬
: : 那你買那種還本醫療或還本防癌的還要鎖15 20年哩 XDDD
: : 保守的做法用保險是可以 但保險的本意還是要先做對保障..
: : 我個人賭爛鎖金流 所以只投保保障型的就好哩^^
: : 投資絕對不碰保險這塊(一般人不用節稅哩^^)
: : 配息基金放長就會領回本哩XDD(當然贖回的部份本金不保證啦)
: : 用閒錢買就好哩...
: 推 linger3716:高收益(垃圾債)基金在不景氣面臨侵蝕本金的風險會比較 08/08 16:38
: → linger3716:小?你如何比較儲蓄險的流動風險跟高收益債的違約風險? 08/08 16:40
: 推 linger3716:高收益基金同樣有面臨要用錢時淨值處於持續下滑的風險 08/08 16:45
: 推 linger3716:我想除非可以量化,否則相關風險還是只能讓當事人自己 08/08 16:48
: → elvies:樓上可以先弄懂基金公司怎麼處理債基違約問題.. 08/08 16:49
: → elvies:如果你不懂 清楚再來挑戰我~ 科~ 08/08 16:50
: → elvies:我坦白跟你講我身邊一堆人用聯博那檔配息賺多爽的fu啦XD 08/08 16:50
: → elvies:比儲蓄險好太多了..而且他們身上都有足夠的定壽 ^^ 08/08 16:50
: http://tinyurl.com/r558kv
: 該文與我的認知相去不遠
: 特來請教原 po 認為基金公司是怎麼處理債基違約問題
幫忙補充一下聯博處理債基違約問題
去年雷曼倒閉 AIG爆發財務危機
不巧的 聯博美收兩檔公司債都中
怎麼處理呢
就是不計價直接砍掉
而損失直接反應在淨值中
當時聯博給的官方說法是
聯博一向保守並以風險為優先考量
故投資組合相當分散
共投資了超過百檔的公司債
由於每檔比重都不高
所以影響不大 請客戶放心
由於這個答覆我相當不能接受
所以經過這次事件
聯博在我心中就大大扣分了
--
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