「房價真的跌不下去...」營建成本上漲2成 - 股票

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: 原文標題:「房價真的跌不下去...」營建成本上漲2成、土地也漲1成 建商悄悄調漲成
交
: 原文連結:https://bit.ly/380HKAs
: 發布時間:2021年3月2日 週二 上午9:05
: 原文內容:
: 營建成本近期持續飆漲,業者估計整體上漲幅度已高達2成之多,已有不少營造廠向建
商
: 提出「成本加成」的報價策略,甚至有些賣預售案的建商也部分改採「先建後售」,打
算
: 把上漲的營建成本反映在未來的房價上。一名建商直言,「成本漲成這樣,房價怎麼跌
?
: 」
: 營建成本上漲2成,營造廠苦不堪言
: 一般來講,營建成本的主原料包括鋼筋、預拌混凝土,觀察近半年國內鋼筋大廠豐興的
報
: 價走勢,去年8月初鋼筋價格每公噸還在1.48萬元,雖然9~10月微幅上調至1.53萬元,
但
: 幅度並不高,一直到11月開始,鋼價大幅走高,最高今年1月來到每公噸1.99萬元,儘
管
: 目前已回落至1.86萬元,但近半年來鋼價漲幅已有25%;預拌混凝土部分,北部地區報
價
: 也從每立方2500元漲至2800元。
: 面對鋼材、預拌混凝土等原物料價格上漲,推案在雙北市的品嘉建設、尚禹營造董事長
胡
: 偉良直呼從業30幾年從來沒見過這麼大幅度的漲幅,尤其營造廠不同於建商可以透過調
整
: 建案單價的作法,加上營造廠的毛利也不高,營建成本上漲10%幾乎就已超過負荷,因
此
: 近期營造廠的作法不外乎有3種。
: 第1種,營造廠透過與建商協商,冀望由建商全盤吸收,再藉由轉嫁消費者身上;第2種
則
: 是營造廠與建商協調各自吸收一半;第3種則有可能是建商不願意吸收,造成營造廠在
新
: 案還未開始之前就先落跑,乾脆擺爛不做,保命要緊,胡偉良說,「這種情形很多,本
來
: 價格都談好了或者才開工沒多久,營造廠就乾脆不做。」。
: 電子廠設廠搶建築工,造成工資暴漲
: 「工資上漲更是離譜!」胡偉良指出,模板工工資本來從1平方米500元不到,現在漲到
7
: 、800元;鋼筋綁紮工資也從原本的每噸4500元,現在也漲到至少7000元以上,總和下
來
: 營建成本的上漲至少都有18~20%,使得房屋每坪造價(每坪成本)大約增加2萬元左
右
: 。
: 昌益建設董事長、中華民國建商公會全聯會理事長楊玉全也認同此看法,他說,以前若
蓋
: 14層樓、地下3樓的建物,每坪造價大約8.5萬元左右,現在每坪造價都要加上2萬元,
每
: 坪造價來到10.5萬元左右,「如果像27層以上的超高樓層,每坪造價沒有12萬元是蓋不
起
: 來的。」
: 事實上,營建業缺工早在2年前就開始逐漸發生,再加上這一年來電子業在國內趕工設
廠
: ,直接加價搶大批工人,無法跟上加價的營建業工程直接大延宕,楊玉全說,過去一個
: 500戶、15層的社區大約2年內就可以完工交屋,現在至少都要抓3年以上的時間。
: 楊玉全以自身的經驗指出,「去年我們到台南發包一個800戶的案子,在抓地下室以前
,
: 鋼筋綁紮工就發包講好了每噸4800元,結果年底要綁的時候,工人已經漲到每噸7200元
,
: 沒辦法如果不給他也叫不到工人!」
: 建商調升成交價,房價要期待下跌更難
: 另一名不具名的建商也直言,很多建商都在先前的預售階段就賣掉,但隨著營建成本不
斷
: 拉高,距離完工交屋的這2年內「真的痛苦萬分」,很多人以為建商賺很大,但其實真
正
: 賺錢的人是掃貨、賺價差的投資者,「政府不解決缺工的問題,但現實就是材料漲、土
地
: 漲、工資漲,要建商不漲價根本不可能。」
: 富旺國際總經理林宗毅坦言,去年底內部就已經調升一輪新案的成交價;富旺國際董事
長
: 林正雄更表示,根據過去經驗以及經濟學準則,若台灣GDP 4%、CPI 2%,整體房價至
少
: 年漲幅6%,但非全面起漲,而呈現建設利多區漲多的情況,年輕人必須體認到房價難
下
: 修的現況。
: 「營建成本上漲2成、土地成本也漲1成,因此新推案價格一定會反映成本上漲。」但楊
玉
: 全也無奈表示,現在政府只要市場稍微漲價就要打房,但實際上只要工資合理化,建材
的
: 漲幅就很有限,因此他呼籲政府應該要加速解決缺工的問題,建商才不致於會將成本上
漲
: 轉嫁到消費者的身上,若沒有從基層下手而一味打房,對於市場根本沒有幫助。
: 建商異口同聲地說,因為成本就這麼高了,房價實在不可能有下跌的空間,就算政府打
房
: 後,價格也是不會跌,但民眾受到市場信心影響,全年的買賣移轉棟數預估將會有所影
響
: 。換言之,一般老百姓若想要期待房價跌,恐怕不會這麼容易。
: 心得/評論:
: 台積電等電子廠擴廠搶建築工,造成工資暴漲。樂了電子股,卻苦了蝸牛族。
: 投資電子股的都是共犯啾咪~
放屁 又電子股是共犯
我只問建商幾個問題
美國房子大小是新北幾倍?
美國建築工資是新北幾倍?
概幾倍大房子 付幾倍工資
美國建築成本是新北幾倍?
那美國二三線城市和新北誰貴?
少來拉 地價成本大概佔個7 8成
和美國比房子小這麼多 工資低這麼多
就像塑料漲了2毛 瓶裝飲料也要跟著漲2塊?
我幫你翻譯翻譯
之前地10萬一坪買的
方圓一公里最高價現在50萬
所以我地價成本50萬
都沒有賺~
其實國外很簡單
你拿地一年內要開發 兩年內銷售
不然課你重稅
你看房價還剩多少?
扯房價變高是因為工資變貴 怎不看美國
電子股堆高房價 建商最無辜
https://i.imgur.com/ASUqQmn.jpg
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: 原文標題:「房價真的跌不下去...」營建成本上漲2成、土地也漲1成 建商悄悄調漲成
交
: 原文連結:https://bit.ly/380HKAs
: 發布時間:2021年3月2日 週二 上午9:05
: 原文內容:
: 營建成本近期持續飆漲,業者估計整體上漲幅度已高達2成之多,已有不少營造廠向建
商
: 提出「成本加成」的報價策略,甚至有些賣預售案的建商也部分改採「先建後售」,打
算
: 把上漲的營建成本反映在未來的房價上。一名建商直言,「成本漲成這樣,房價怎麼跌
?
: 」
: 營建成本上漲2成,營造廠苦不堪言
: 一般來講,營建成本的主原料包括鋼筋、預拌混凝土,觀察近半年國內鋼筋大廠豐興的
報
: 價走勢,去年8月初鋼筋價格每公噸還在1.48萬元,雖然9~10月微幅上調至1.53萬元,
但
: 幅度並不高,一直到11月開始,鋼價大幅走高,最高今年1月來到每公噸1.99萬元,儘
管
: 目前已回落至1.86萬元,但近半年來鋼價漲幅已有25%;預拌混凝土部分,北部地區報
價
: 也從每立方2500元漲至2800元。
: 面對鋼材、預拌混凝土等原物料價格上漲,推案在雙北市的品嘉建設、尚禹營造董事長
胡
: 偉良直呼從業30幾年從來沒見過這麼大幅度的漲幅,尤其營造廠不同於建商可以透過調
整
: 建案單價的作法,加上營造廠的毛利也不高,營建成本上漲10%幾乎就已超過負荷,因
此
: 近期營造廠的作法不外乎有3種。
: 第1種,營造廠透過與建商協商,冀望由建商全盤吸收,再藉由轉嫁消費者身上;第2種
則
: 是營造廠與建商協調各自吸收一半;第3種則有可能是建商不願意吸收,造成營造廠在
新
: 案還未開始之前就先落跑,乾脆擺爛不做,保命要緊,胡偉良說,「這種情形很多,本
來
: 價格都談好了或者才開工沒多久,營造廠就乾脆不做。」。
: 電子廠設廠搶建築工,造成工資暴漲
: 「工資上漲更是離譜!」胡偉良指出,模板工工資本來從1平方米500元不到,現在漲到
7
: 、800元;鋼筋綁紮工資也從原本的每噸4500元,現在也漲到至少7000元以上,總和下
來
: 營建成本的上漲至少都有18~20%,使得房屋每坪造價(每坪成本)大約增加2萬元左
右
: 。
: 昌益建設董事長、中華民國建商公會全聯會理事長楊玉全也認同此看法,他說,以前若
蓋
: 14層樓、地下3樓的建物,每坪造價大約8.5萬元左右,現在每坪造價都要加上2萬元,
每
: 坪造價來到10.5萬元左右,「如果像27層以上的超高樓層,每坪造價沒有12萬元是蓋不
起
: 來的。」
: 事實上,營建業缺工早在2年前就開始逐漸發生,再加上這一年來電子業在國內趕工設
廠
: ,直接加價搶大批工人,無法跟上加價的營建業工程直接大延宕,楊玉全說,過去一個
: 500戶、15層的社區大約2年內就可以完工交屋,現在至少都要抓3年以上的時間。
: 楊玉全以自身的經驗指出,「去年我們到台南發包一個800戶的案子,在抓地下室以前
,
: 鋼筋綁紮工就發包講好了每噸4800元,結果年底要綁的時候,工人已經漲到每噸7200元
,
: 沒辦法如果不給他也叫不到工人!」
: 建商調升成交價,房價要期待下跌更難
: 另一名不具名的建商也直言,很多建商都在先前的預售階段就賣掉,但隨著營建成本不
斷
: 拉高,距離完工交屋的這2年內「真的痛苦萬分」,很多人以為建商賺很大,但其實真
正
: 賺錢的人是掃貨、賺價差的投資者,「政府不解決缺工的問題,但現實就是材料漲、土
地
: 漲、工資漲,要建商不漲價根本不可能。」
: 富旺國際總經理林宗毅坦言,去年底內部就已經調升一輪新案的成交價;富旺國際董事
長
: 林正雄更表示,根據過去經驗以及經濟學準則,若台灣GDP 4%、CPI 2%,整體房價至
少
: 年漲幅6%,但非全面起漲,而呈現建設利多區漲多的情況,年輕人必須體認到房價難
下
: 修的現況。
: 「營建成本上漲2成、土地成本也漲1成,因此新推案價格一定會反映成本上漲。」但楊
玉
: 全也無奈表示,現在政府只要市場稍微漲價就要打房,但實際上只要工資合理化,建材
的
: 漲幅就很有限,因此他呼籲政府應該要加速解決缺工的問題,建商才不致於會將成本上
漲
: 轉嫁到消費者的身上,若沒有從基層下手而一味打房,對於市場根本沒有幫助。
: 建商異口同聲地說,因為成本就這麼高了,房價實在不可能有下跌的空間,就算政府打
房
: 後,價格也是不會跌,但民眾受到市場信心影響,全年的買賣移轉棟數預估將會有所影
響
: 。換言之,一般老百姓若想要期待房價跌,恐怕不會這麼容易。
: 心得/評論:
: 台積電等電子廠擴廠搶建築工,造成工資暴漲。樂了電子股,卻苦了蝸牛族。
: 投資電子股的都是共犯啾咪~
放屁 又電子股是共犯
我只問建商幾個問題
美國房子大小是新北幾倍?
美國建築工資是新北幾倍?
概幾倍大房子 付幾倍工資
美國建築成本是新北幾倍?
那美國二三線城市和新北誰貴?
少來拉 地價成本大概佔個7 8成
和美國比房子小這麼多 工資低這麼多
就像塑料漲了2毛 瓶裝飲料也要跟著漲2塊?
我幫你翻譯翻譯
之前地10萬一坪買的
方圓一公里最高價現在50萬
所以我地價成本50萬
都沒有賺~
其實國外很簡單
你拿地一年內要開發 兩年內銷售
不然課你重稅
你看房價還剩多少?
扯房價變高是因為工資變貴 怎不看美國
電子股堆高房價 建商最無辜
https://i.imgur.com/ASUqQmn.jpg
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