Re: 即將畢業心得 - 期貨

By Carol
at 2012-02-15T15:17
at 2012-02-15T15:17
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※ 引述《MaYinJo (硬久哥)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《backfun (營業員勿擾)》之銘言:
: : 今天空單停損7895,轉倉30口79p後天再來發畢業心得!卸洩!呆股偉哉!窩服了you了!
: 我的營業員說:
: 他當了八年的營業員 自己也會下單 前七年都賠錢 直到去年才賺
: 八年來 他沒有看過他的客戶有賺錢離去的人(希望我是例外 XD)
: 我阿姨的營業員(兆豐金襄理)說:
: 她當了20多年的營業員 沒看過玩期貨是真正賺的
我對這句話非常感興趣,到底在 10 ~ 20 年的長期績效來看,期貨能不能賺錢
就我而言,我玩過股票,選擇權,期貨
其中只有股票是賺錢的,而且每年結算下來的總損益沒有一年是賠錢的
多頭,空頭,我都經歷過,股票能賺錢,這點我是抱持肯定的
選擇權,很久以前吃過一次 龜零膏,從此就收手不玩選擇權了
至於期貨,從當初小台一口手續費 單邊 1000 塊,玩到現在單邊 30
期貨沒有一年是賺的,也讓我畢業好幾次
畢業後總是每次看了一些書,又感到熱血沸騰,自覺武功增進千百倍
但是,總是有沒什麼賺錢,期貨要賺錢真的很難
三,四年前,工作有點空閒,開始研究寫程式作程式交易
程式交易某部分可以從上面學到一些交易的 方法
很諷刺,冰冷的回歸數據,居然可以教我們如何在期貨交易
看著程式冰冷的交易,也嘲笑自己神經緊張過度交易的愚蠢
程式是以波段交易為主,光就回歸績效來看,程式跑的不錯,
相信所有的波段交易程式,寫的都差不多架構,只是停利,停損 range 抓的鬆緊差異
range 是決定生死的關鍵,一個 100點 假突破真拉回觸碰成作多的點
會造成 200 點的損益,如果這種事情不斷發生,績效一定是悲劇收場
寫程式交易一定要清楚知道,自己的程式是靠 股市中的哪個現象在賺錢
實際 run 個三年下來,期貨空單被漲停板嘎到也碰過了
千點行情大吃千點也吃過了,但 帳戶金額還是那個死樣子
反觀股票這邊,算下來年年都有賺,帳戶金額一直成長
回歸到 阿姨營業員 20 年沒碰過賺錢的主題
其實到目前我也是相當懷疑期貨 長期 10 年的績效,真的有人能夠賺錢
當然張松允是個響當當案例,但你我不是張松允,而且也沒人看過張松允的十年績效
在這邊想請問各位的是,以 總損益/年 ,來看的話
各位覺得在期貨真的有辦法十年到頭穩定獲利嗎 ?
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: ※ 引述《backfun (營業員勿擾)》之銘言:
: : 今天空單停損7895,轉倉30口79p後天再來發畢業心得!卸洩!呆股偉哉!窩服了you了!
: 我的營業員說:
: 他當了八年的營業員 自己也會下單 前七年都賠錢 直到去年才賺
: 八年來 他沒有看過他的客戶有賺錢離去的人(希望我是例外 XD)
: 我阿姨的營業員(兆豐金襄理)說:
: 她當了20多年的營業員 沒看過玩期貨是真正賺的
我對這句話非常感興趣,到底在 10 ~ 20 年的長期績效來看,期貨能不能賺錢
就我而言,我玩過股票,選擇權,期貨
其中只有股票是賺錢的,而且每年結算下來的總損益沒有一年是賠錢的
多頭,空頭,我都經歷過,股票能賺錢,這點我是抱持肯定的
選擇權,很久以前吃過一次 龜零膏,從此就收手不玩選擇權了
至於期貨,從當初小台一口手續費 單邊 1000 塊,玩到現在單邊 30
期貨沒有一年是賺的,也讓我畢業好幾次
畢業後總是每次看了一些書,又感到熱血沸騰,自覺武功增進千百倍
但是,總是有沒什麼賺錢,期貨要賺錢真的很難
三,四年前,工作有點空閒,開始研究寫程式作程式交易
程式交易某部分可以從上面學到一些交易的 方法
很諷刺,冰冷的回歸數據,居然可以教我們如何在期貨交易
看著程式冰冷的交易,也嘲笑自己神經緊張過度交易的愚蠢
程式是以波段交易為主,光就回歸績效來看,程式跑的不錯,
相信所有的波段交易程式,寫的都差不多架構,只是停利,停損 range 抓的鬆緊差異
range 是決定生死的關鍵,一個 100點 假突破真拉回觸碰成作多的點
會造成 200 點的損益,如果這種事情不斷發生,績效一定是悲劇收場
寫程式交易一定要清楚知道,自己的程式是靠 股市中的哪個現象在賺錢
實際 run 個三年下來,期貨空單被漲停板嘎到也碰過了
千點行情大吃千點也吃過了,但 帳戶金額還是那個死樣子
反觀股票這邊,算下來年年都有賺,帳戶金額一直成長
回歸到 阿姨營業員 20 年沒碰過賺錢的主題
其實到目前我也是相當懷疑期貨 長期 10 年的績效,真的有人能夠賺錢
當然張松允是個響當當案例,但你我不是張松允,而且也沒人看過張松允的十年績效
在這邊想請問各位的是,以 總損益/年 ,來看的話
各位覺得在期貨真的有辦法十年到頭穩定獲利嗎 ?
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By Victoria
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By Dora
at 2012-02-27T23:52
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你看除權息季的逆價差那就是送你的股利

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By Xanthe
at 2012-03-13T03:40
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和操作的穩定度差很多

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at 2012-04-09T08:54
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你長期沒辦法打敗大盤就賺大盤就好

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去年就是這樣啊…反彈真的超兇的

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下單 查損益 查成交 改委託 = = 幾秒內要處理所有事

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2小,可是目前獲利沒辦法像股票+6萬欸 怎麼回事 囧

By Candice
at 2012-08-01T01:20
at 2012-08-01T01:20
是不是真的股市比較好賺啊 我開始疑惑了

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雖然目前沒賺過
但是我依然信心滿滿
現在

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我空了
那你呢?

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希望放久一點我的愛股會幫我收斂我今天貪心的損失

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