Re: 不買房的幸福婚姻 - 股票
By Gilbert
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作者: Archanfel (Archanfel) 看板: marriage
標題: [閒聊] Re: [問題] 開板第一問
時間: Thu Nov 22 02:27:52 2018
個人年報酬率30%,連續幾年的,還真遇過不少,有的還是50%~100%這種的。但是能連續十幾年都這樣的投資人那就是真的非常非常非常的少了,我個人是真的沒認識半個。一般投資人就算是工程師也不可能懂太多產業,更不用說市場的想法,唯一能夠完全掌握的就是投資的紀律,跟技術分析的能力。過去十幾年剛好經歷2008金融海嘯,2006到2008指數從6000多到8000多,2008跌到4000,2009回到8000,2010到2016指數在6000到10000間震盪,2016下半才開始邁向萬點大多頭。在這種環境下能夠十幾年平均30%的散戶真的是太令我佩服了,眼光紀律跟運氣都是非凡。
版上不知道有沒有跟我一樣是職業基金操盤的,我的部位大概是2000到4000多萬美金,過去5年績效從20%到40%都有,今年以前平均報酬率應該不到25%,今年幸運搭上被動元件列車,進的早跑的快,績效超過50%,算是操盤以來最好的一年。但是最近貿易戰烏雲罩頂,蘋果供應鏈又砍單連連,明年的績效看起來相當不妙!
我們只投科技產業,供應鏈跑得很勤,市場消息又是即時,所以都是多空兩面下手,市場的震盪對我們績效的影響理論上相對比一般投資人小。所以這位葉太太的工程師老公真的非常人,在這動盪的十幾年裡能做的到平均30%年報酬率。這對夫妻也是勇氣驚人,不是金融專業卻有勇氣在五年內相繼辭去高薪的工程師工作及穩定的教師工作,這種投資能力跟勇氣真的不是一般人做得到的。
所以這個案例真的是個非常極端的特例,跟先買不買房關係實在不大。10~12年前竹北高鐵附近新大樓一坪大概16~18萬,50坪差不多800~900萬,兩成頭期款不到200萬。先付200萬,每月房貸約37500~43500,這對工程師教師雙薪來說再簡單不過了。再存個一年,或是家裡贊助200萬拿來投資,每年30%,現在還是一樣現金資產幾千萬,還多了一個一千多萬的竹北房子!
所以,是不買房的幸福?還是老公好會投資的幸福啊?
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作者: Archanfel (Archanfel) 看板: marriage
標題: [閒聊] Re: [問題] 開板第一問
時間: Thu Nov 22 02:27:52 2018
個人年報酬率30%,連續幾年的,還真遇過不少,有的還是50%~100%這種的。但是能連續十幾年都這樣的投資人那就是真的非常非常非常的少了,我個人是真的沒認識半個。一般投資人就算是工程師也不可能懂太多產業,更不用說市場的想法,唯一能夠完全掌握的就是投資的紀律,跟技術分析的能力。過去十幾年剛好經歷2008金融海嘯,2006到2008指數從6000多到8000多,2008跌到4000,2009回到8000,2010到2016指數在6000到10000間震盪,2016下半才開始邁向萬點大多頭。在這種環境下能夠十幾年平均30%的散戶真的是太令我佩服了,眼光紀律跟運氣都是非凡。
版上不知道有沒有跟我一樣是職業基金操盤的,我的部位大概是2000到4000多萬美金,過去5年績效從20%到40%都有,今年以前平均報酬率應該不到25%,今年幸運搭上被動元件列車,進的早跑的快,績效超過50%,算是操盤以來最好的一年。但是最近貿易戰烏雲罩頂,蘋果供應鏈又砍單連連,明年的績效看起來相當不妙!
我們只投科技產業,供應鏈跑得很勤,市場消息又是即時,所以都是多空兩面下手,市場的震盪對我們績效的影響理論上相對比一般投資人小。所以這位葉太太的工程師老公真的非常人,在這動盪的十幾年裡能做的到平均30%年報酬率。這對夫妻也是勇氣驚人,不是金融專業卻有勇氣在五年內相繼辭去高薪的工程師工作及穩定的教師工作,這種投資能力跟勇氣真的不是一般人做得到的。
所以這個案例真的是個非常極端的特例,跟先買不買房關係實在不大。10~12年前竹北高鐵附近新大樓一坪大概16~18萬,50坪差不多800~900萬,兩成頭期款不到200萬。先付200萬,每月房貸約37500~43500,這對工程師教師雙薪來說再簡單不過了。再存個一年,或是家裡贊助200萬拿來投資,每年30%,現在還是一樣現金資產幾千萬,還多了一個一千多萬的竹北房子!
所以,是不買房的幸福?還是老公好會投資的幸福啊?
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