AMD發布第一季財報!盤後股價暴跌逾11% - 股票

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By Cara
at 2017-05-03T13:54

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※ 引述《gofee (撞牆的青蛙)》之銘言:
: amd似乎不可能上15了, 現在是10.89,想當初在噴的時候各種呼聲
: 現在卻不樂觀。



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是說
之前就一直有不少人跟我說他想買amd 他買惹amd
然後看美國一堆論壇
就感覺阿這擦鞋童越來越多惹
雖然說並不是擦鞋童多就一定會跌
只是跌的時候就 恩 QQ QQ QQ




就目前財報數據來看
最大的問題點
就是全年預估營收只比去年多low double digits
意思大概就是10~13%
然而
市場的預期&幻想
是amd zen一出 可以從intel手上搶下5%甚至10%的$$
這大概是amd營收值接增加60%以上
所以現實營收數據當然無法支撐13甚至15的價位
如果不談本夢比
這樣的營收大概只值4~5的股價


單就今年的zen cpu來看
如果增加的營收主要來自zen
那大概是500M
差不多是蘇媽之前講5B HEDT的10%
是蠻虛der QQ


但是觀察目前市場反應一面倒
CP佳 效能好
除惹系統穩定性剛開始不太優以外
大概就主機板缺貨問題最大惹

所以我推測今年營收沒開出來的原因
可能就
1.缺貨(可能主版缺比較多) 下半年應該會緩解
通常晶片下單到版子生產出來
光晶片就要三葛月惹
所以三月追加訂單 補貨差不多都7月惹

or

2.其他部分營收下降 主要是遊戲機or gpu
gpu部分可以觀察下禮拜nvda的財報
目前AN兩家的競爭態勢並無明顯變化
所以如果nvda財報在顯卡部分衰退
那就表示整體顯卡銷售衰退惹

or

3.DIY市場太小
.........QQ
那就要等明年apu上市惹QQ


傳統上Q3是amd旺季
所以大概Q2財報時對Q3的官方預估
就可以大概知道後續究竟如何



長期來看
目前市場上一直有人說
amd沒有獲利 都在虧錢
這點簡單來說就是沒仔細看財報
amd經過數年的組織精簡
最近研發開支卻往上
很明顯的 就是管理階層有看到未來的機會
如果把增加的研發開支扣掉
AMD Q1確實是很接近損益兩平惹


我本身對amd策略的推測是
amd zen core效能的成長空間比intel的大
畢竟這才只是新架構的第一代而已
現在的研發開支 主要就會是7nm的新產品
應該是兩年後才會上市
也許到那葛時間點
amd頂級產品的性能就會高過intel
intel是不太可能在兩年內搞出革命性的新架構
這部分可以觀察5/16的amd財務分析會議
大概會公開接下來兩年的計畫



再參考蘇媽透露的未來毛利目標
大約是36~40%
然後從2016Q2跟2017Q2的營收&毛利差異比對
大概可以推估zen毛利約50%
這樣算起來
蘇媽對營收增長的整體預期大約會在每年1.5B~3B之間


不過這部分
關鍵還是oem&server大廠的態度
通常他悶會在乎產品roadmap 也就是平台升級的可能性
這樣可以大大降低開發成本
對oem&server才有吸引力

當然oem最需要的apu
跟慢熱的server
要對營收有明顯影響
大概都要明年惹




簡單來講
就是想要去年那種三五倍漲幅
今年是不用想惹
明年再說八
QQ





大guy4這樣
認同幫QQ

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at 2018-07-14T16:46
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at 2018-07-18T13:21
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at 2018-07-19T19:32
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at 2018-07-22T20:02
快倒的東芝的ADR股價都比AMD高了,想等跌回6塊還是
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By Christine
at 2018-08-06T10:10
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at 2018-08-08T11:24
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未來事件簿的謝文恩 UCCU

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By Necoo
at 2017-05-03T12:51
1. 老師:謝文恩 2. 標的:大盤 3. 理由: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlMtBPaQMM0 今天無聊亂點YOUTUBE,點到這位老斯的5/2的影片, 覺得他很油條,聲音好大好吵,講話又很誇大,尤其是聽到3.20開始~ 他說「預測跳空是人類歷史上很偉大 ...

金管會不罰 彰銀盜領案看官員如何換位子

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By Hedwig
at 2017-05-03T12:29
1.原文連結(超過一行或過長必須縮網址): https://www.cmmedia.com.tw/home/articles/3693 2.原文內容: 陳怡樺2017-05-03 09:00 彰化銀行1日被爆出台北分行蕭姓前行員涉嫌盜領客戶千萬存款,被台北地檢署依違反銀 行法的「銀行職員背信罪」起訴。然 ...

三星找面板貨源,群創及友達將吃補

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By Irma
at 2017-05-03T11:26
1.原文連結(超過一行或過長必須縮網址): https://money.udn.com/money/story/5710/2438958 2.原文內容: 三星找面板貨源 群創友達將吃補 2017-05-03 00:07經濟日報 記者蕭君暉/台北報導 樂金顯示器(LGD)原計劃7月供貨電視面板給三星電 ...

1452 宏益

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By Lily
at 2017-05-03T11:11
1. 標的:1452 宏益 2. 分類:多 3. 分析/正文: 技術線型: 多頭線型 一路賺到飽的那種 現在拉回給我上車 營收盈餘:三月業績超級好 好到比去年每月都好 要發動了 這檔就紡織好股 今年配1.2 大概也有5% 其實都比聚陽、儒鴻等等的殖利率都還高 這種好股又穩又猛 4. 進退場機制 ...

3374 精材

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By Madame
at 2017-05-03T11:00
1. 標的:3374 精材 2. 分類:多 3. 分析/正文: a.基本面:1.iPhone8 3D感測的DOE元件5月開始小量出貨, 6月開始正式放量出貨,目前良率已達9成以上。 2.DOE元件的BOM Cost是3美元左右,是3D感測元件中屬於高單價元件。 ...