AMD發布第一季財報!盤後股價暴跌逾11% - 股票

By Cara
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※ 引述《gofee (撞牆的青蛙)》之銘言:
: amd似乎不可能上15了, 現在是10.89,想當初在噴的時候各種呼聲
: 現在卻不樂觀。
恩
恩
QQ
QQ
QQ
是說
之前就一直有不少人跟我說他想買amd 他買惹amd
然後看美國一堆論壇
就感覺阿這擦鞋童越來越多惹
雖然說並不是擦鞋童多就一定會跌
只是跌的時候就 恩 QQ QQ QQ
就目前財報數據來看
最大的問題點
就是全年預估營收只比去年多low double digits
意思大概就是10~13%
然而
市場的預期&幻想
是amd zen一出 可以從intel手上搶下5%甚至10%的$$
這大概是amd營收值接增加60%以上
所以現實營收數據當然無法支撐13甚至15的價位
如果不談本夢比
這樣的營收大概只值4~5的股價
單就今年的zen cpu來看
如果增加的營收主要來自zen
那大概是500M
差不多是蘇媽之前講5B HEDT的10%
是蠻虛der QQ
但是觀察目前市場反應一面倒
CP佳 效能好
除惹系統穩定性剛開始不太優以外
大概就主機板缺貨問題最大惹
所以我推測今年營收沒開出來的原因
可能就
1.缺貨(可能主版缺比較多) 下半年應該會緩解
通常晶片下單到版子生產出來
光晶片就要三葛月惹
所以三月追加訂單 補貨差不多都7月惹
or
2.其他部分營收下降 主要是遊戲機or gpu
gpu部分可以觀察下禮拜nvda的財報
目前AN兩家的競爭態勢並無明顯變化
所以如果nvda財報在顯卡部分衰退
那就表示整體顯卡銷售衰退惹
or
3.DIY市場太小
.........QQ
那就要等明年apu上市惹QQ
傳統上Q3是amd旺季
所以大概Q2財報時對Q3的官方預估
就可以大概知道後續究竟如何
長期來看
目前市場上一直有人說
amd沒有獲利 都在虧錢
這點簡單來說就是沒仔細看財報
amd經過數年的組織精簡
最近研發開支卻往上
很明顯的 就是管理階層有看到未來的機會
如果把增加的研發開支扣掉
AMD Q1確實是很接近損益兩平惹
我本身對amd策略的推測是
amd zen core效能的成長空間比intel的大
畢竟這才只是新架構的第一代而已
現在的研發開支 主要就會是7nm的新產品
應該是兩年後才會上市
也許到那葛時間點
amd頂級產品的性能就會高過intel
intel是不太可能在兩年內搞出革命性的新架構
這部分可以觀察5/16的amd財務分析會議
大概會公開接下來兩年的計畫
再參考蘇媽透露的未來毛利目標
大約是36~40%
然後從2016Q2跟2017Q2的營收&毛利差異比對
大概可以推估zen毛利約50%
這樣算起來
蘇媽對營收增長的整體預期大約會在每年1.5B~3B之間
不過這部分
關鍵還是oem&server大廠的態度
通常他悶會在乎產品roadmap 也就是平台升級的可能性
這樣可以大大降低開發成本
對oem&server才有吸引力
當然oem最需要的apu
跟慢熱的server
要對營收有明顯影響
大概都要明年惹
簡單來講
就是想要去年那種三五倍漲幅
今年是不用想惹
明年再說八
QQ
大guy4這樣
認同幫QQ
QQ
--
: amd似乎不可能上15了, 現在是10.89,想當初在噴的時候各種呼聲
: 現在卻不樂觀。
恩
恩
是說
之前就一直有不少人跟我說他想買amd 他買惹amd
然後看美國一堆論壇
就感覺阿這擦鞋童越來越多惹
雖然說並不是擦鞋童多就一定會跌
只是跌的時候就 恩 QQ QQ QQ
就目前財報數據來看
最大的問題點
就是全年預估營收只比去年多low double digits
意思大概就是10~13%
然而
市場的預期&幻想
是amd zen一出 可以從intel手上搶下5%甚至10%的$$
這大概是amd營收值接增加60%以上
所以現實營收數據當然無法支撐13甚至15的價位
如果不談本夢比
這樣的營收大概只值4~5的股價
單就今年的zen cpu來看
如果增加的營收主要來自zen
那大概是500M
差不多是蘇媽之前講5B HEDT的10%
是蠻虛der QQ
但是觀察目前市場反應一面倒
CP佳 效能好
除惹系統穩定性剛開始不太優以外
大概就主機板缺貨問題最大惹
所以我推測今年營收沒開出來的原因
可能就
1.缺貨(可能主版缺比較多) 下半年應該會緩解
通常晶片下單到版子生產出來
光晶片就要三葛月惹
所以三月追加訂單 補貨差不多都7月惹
or
2.其他部分營收下降 主要是遊戲機or gpu
gpu部分可以觀察下禮拜nvda的財報
目前AN兩家的競爭態勢並無明顯變化
所以如果nvda財報在顯卡部分衰退
那就表示整體顯卡銷售衰退惹
or
3.DIY市場太小
那就要等明年apu上市惹QQ
傳統上Q3是amd旺季
所以大概Q2財報時對Q3的官方預估
就可以大概知道後續究竟如何
長期來看
目前市場上一直有人說
amd沒有獲利 都在虧錢
這點簡單來說就是沒仔細看財報
amd經過數年的組織精簡
最近研發開支卻往上
很明顯的 就是管理階層有看到未來的機會
如果把增加的研發開支扣掉
AMD Q1確實是很接近損益兩平惹
我本身對amd策略的推測是
amd zen core效能的成長空間比intel的大
畢竟這才只是新架構的第一代而已
現在的研發開支 主要就會是7nm的新產品
應該是兩年後才會上市
也許到那葛時間點
amd頂級產品的性能就會高過intel
intel是不太可能在兩年內搞出革命性的新架構
這部分可以觀察5/16的amd財務分析會議
大概會公開接下來兩年的計畫
再參考蘇媽透露的未來毛利目標
大約是36~40%
然後從2016Q2跟2017Q2的營收&毛利差異比對
大概可以推估zen毛利約50%
這樣算起來
蘇媽對營收增長的整體預期大約會在每年1.5B~3B之間
不過這部分
關鍵還是oem&server大廠的態度
通常他悶會在乎產品roadmap 也就是平台升級的可能性
這樣可以大大降低開發成本
對oem&server才有吸引力
當然oem最需要的apu
跟慢熱的server
要對營收有明顯影響
大概都要明年惹
簡單來講
就是想要去年那種三五倍漲幅
今年是不用想惹
明年再說八
大guy4這樣
認同幫QQ
--
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